DIY: V6 Burger Motorsports JB4 Installation

[Hugh888]

Can you post/show a before/after JB4 map done by a 3rd party that clearly gives the before/after?

I think people are trying to do it because there hasn't been much customer verified data.

I say this as a very happy jb4 owner.

David, I agree with you and I am a happy jb4 owner with eventuri cái and milltek valve control and exhaust system.

I like to know how much hp to the wheel I have lol

 

[K_Squared]

David, I agree with you and I am a happy jb4 owner with eventuri cái and milltek valve control and exhaust system.

I like to know how much hp to the wheel I have lol

Pretty much same setup here and I'm curious:

1. GRP 3rd cat delete
2. Milltek Valve Controller
3. Eventuri Intake
4. JB4 Map2 (We have 93 octane everywhere in NC)

Based on dyno evidence from the various mods (mostly the JB4 addition), I'm guessing somewhere around 510-520bhp and around 470 to the wheels. It definitely feels like it's at least 20% more power than stock but a dyno chart with a similar setup would be great to see.

 

[Hugh888]

Pretty much same setup here and I'm curious:

1. GRP 3rd cat delete
2. Milltek Valve Controller
3. Eventuri Intake
4. JB4 Map2 (We have 93 octane everywhere in NC)

Based on dyno evidence from the various mods (mostly the JB4 addition), I'm guessing somewhere around 510-520bhp and around 470 to the wheels. It definitely feels like it's at least 20% more power than stock but a dyno chart with a similar setup would be great to see.

Great to hear that we have around 470 to the wheels. I forgot to say I have GRP cat delete as well as aerie v2 exhaust.

 

[Hugh888]

Pretty much same setup here and I'm curious:

1. GRP 3rd cat delete
2. Milltek Valve Controller
3. Eventuri Intake
4. JB4 Map2 (We have 93 octane everywhere in NC)

Based on dyno evidence from the various mods (mostly the JB4 addition), I'm guessing somewhere around 510-520bhp and around 470 to the wheels. It definitely feels like it's at least 20% more power than stock but a dyno chart with a similar setup would be great to see.

Would you say with race gas and on map 3, we be at 500 to the wheel?

 

[Eagle7]

Hi all. As a JB4 user(V6). I find it interesting how many in the US have their cars dynoed after this mod. Here down under, we dyno our cars only to tune in various parameters to mate any major mods to smooth things out any put safety's in pace. Not many of us use it to measure HP or torque. There are risks when you thrash your car on a dyno, and here down under you have to sign off if they break it on the dyno, you own it. So apart from some level of curiosity, what is the benefit of doing a dyno, especially after a few people have already done one and show that the Burger figures were relatively accurate?

I do it more as a service to the forum. I started doing this with the Eventuri when it first came out, because people were skeptical of the claims, so I got a dyno run to show on paper what I was experiencing. I knew it was adding power and torque, but it helped to have a number to show. This next dyno will be at the same shop, same guy doing it as a continuation of what I started with the Eventuri, just for the sake of being consistent with what I do in my project thread.

 

[BobbyG]

I do it more as a service to the forum. I started doing this with the Eventuri when it first came out, because people were skeptical of the claims, so I got a dyno run to show on paper what I was experiencing. I knew it was adding power and torque, but it helped to have a number to show. This next dyno will be at the same shop, same guy doing it as a continuation of what I started with the Eventuri, just for the sake of being consistent with what I do in my project thread.

I’ll be very interested in the outcome as I’m pretty sure my mods align with Eagle7 with the minor variation of my GRP intake vs. his Eventuri.

Nice work sir

 

[K_Squared]

I do it more as a service to the forum. I started doing this with the Eventuri when it first came out, because people were skeptical of the claims, so I got a dyno run to show on paper what I was experiencing. I knew it was adding power and torque, but it helped to have a number to show. This next dyno will be at the same shop, same guy doing it as a continuation of what I started with the Eventuri, just for the sake of being consistent with what I do in my project thread.

I for one really appreciate it. With work/life responsibilities and a 1 and a 3 year old, it would be really difficult for me to find the time to go do this so thank you for your service

 

[K_Squared]

Would you say with race gas and on map 3, we be at 500 to the wheel?

To be honest I'm really not sure. I'm mostly basing this on the following (although I do know that mods are not purely additive and hence this is more of an educated guess):

1. GRP 3rd cat delete (+5-10 bhp?)
2. Milltek Valve Controller (in full open we've seen a few HP gain in some dyno testing)
3. Eventuri Intake (+15-20 bhp)
4. JB4 Map2 (We have 93 octane everywhere in NC) (+96 bhp)

So going for a conservative estimate, let's say we get 5 bhp for the 3rd cat, 5bhp for the Milltek in full open, 15bhp for the Eventuri, and round down to 90bhp for the JB4, we're still at +115bhp which would be 515bhp and right at 453.2hp to the wheels with an assumed drivetrain loss of 12%.

Also, for what it's worth, the JB4 V6 dyno runs with a drop in air filter and 3rd cat delete (I think?) showed 462hp to the wheels so I am probably lowballing the numbers.
Ref: https://www.gregsraceparts.com/products/burger-tuning-jb4-tuner-for-2022-lotus-emira-beta

Anyone can feel free to correct me on any of this. I'm trying to base this analysis off of past dyno runs and data that have been made publicly available.

 

[mr.suntorytime]

To be honest I'm really not sure. I'm mostly basing this on the following (although I do know that mods are not purely additive and hence this is more of an educated guess):

1. GRP 3rd cat delete (+5-10 bhp?)
2. Milltek Valve Controller (in full open we've seen a few HP gain in some dyno testing)
3. Eventuri Intake (+15-20 bhp)
4. JB4 Map2 (We have 93 octane everywhere in NC) (+96 bhp)

So going for a conservative estimate, let's say we get 5 bhp for the 3rd cat, 5bhp for the Milltek in full open, 15bhp for the Eventuri, and round down to 90bhp for the JB4, we're still at +115bhp which would be 515bhp and right at 453.2hp to the wheels with an assumed drivetrain loss of 12%.

Also, for what it's worth, the JB4 V6 dyno runs with a drop in air filter and 3rd cat delete (I think?) showed 462hp to the wheels so I am probably lowballing the numbers.
Ref: https://www.gregsraceparts.com/products/burger-tuning-jb4-tuner-for-2022-lotus-emira-beta

Anyone can feel free to correct me on any of this. I'm trying to base this analysis off of past dyno runs and data that have been made publicly available.

no that's right for my car. as it was used as the mule.

 

[K_Squared]

no that's right for my car. as it was used as the mule.

That's what I had remembered reading but thank you very much for the confirmation. So it's very reasonable to say then that with the added Milltek + Eventuri (vs. drop in) we should be somewhere slightly above the 462whp number which would put us around the 525-530bhp mark. It definitely feels that way to the butt dyno with these mods vs. stock. Cool

 

[Brokenblinker]

I do it more as a service to the forum. I started doing this with the Eventuri when it first came out, because people were skeptical of the claims, so I got a dyno run to show on paper what I was experiencing. I knew it was adding power and torque, but it helped to have a number to show. This next dyno will be at the same shop, same guy doing it as a continuation of what I started with the Eventuri, just for the sake of being consistent with what I do in my project thread.

Thanks for doing it! You're going to get a run for Map 0 (disabled) and map 1?

 

[Hugh888]

That's what I had remembered reading but thank you very much for the confirmation. So it's very reasonable to say then that with the added Milltek + Eventuri (vs. drop in) we should be somewhere slightly above the 462whp number which would put us around the 525-530bhp mark. It definitely feels that way to the butt dyno with these mods vs. stock. Cool

Awesome to read your reply. Plus GRP third car delete on my car as well.
I would be having 470whp

 

[David s]

I do it more as a service to the forum. I started doing this with the Eventuri when it first came out, because people were skeptical of the claims, so I got a dyno run to show on paper what I was experiencing. I knew it was adding power and torque, but it helped to have a number to show. This next dyno will be at the same shop, same guy doing it as a continuation of what I started with the Eventuri, just for the sake of being consistent with what I do in my project thread.

I`m glad that you are willing to do this. And I too will look at your data. I guess in Aus, we just do the mods, and take about how it feel on our buts, or how it pull out of the curves. We are not that use to the dynoplot here.

 

[David s]

Thanks for doing it! You're going to get a run for Map 0 (disabled) and map 1?

For a bit of fun, I sometimes drive around in map 0 for a short while, then flick across to map 2 and get that "holy crap" feel back again.

 

[Eagle7]

Thanks for doing it! You're going to get a run for Map 0 (disabled) and map 1?

I already have a dyno chart without the JB4 which was my last run. Here's the page on my project thread which shows the last dyno run with all the mods I have up to that point.

📓 Journals - Adding Lightness

The Aerie tips are titanium and look really nice if you want that look on the car. They're about 6 inches long and definitely have that aftermarket tuner look. They're very light weight too. They do look good

www.emiraforum.com

I got the all-clear from Burger that my data log looked good, so tomorrow I'm going to do a 100 mile run (50 out and back) then go to the dyno shop and see when I can get a time for a dyno run. I'll post that up on my project thread soon as I have it.

 

[NJemira85]

470 to the wheels, with approx 400 wtq, in this car with basic bolt ons is a fantastic value and towering achievement. I wonder what headers with one sport cat in line will yield in terms of torque area under curve and peak.

Car goes from gt4 competitor to gt3 competitor with way more torque.

 

[seriously]

470 to the wheels, with approx 400 wtq, in this car with basic bolt ons is a fantastic value and towering achievement. I wonder what headers with one sport cat in line will yield in terms of torque area under curve and peak.

Car goes from gt4 competitor to gt3 competitor with way more torque.

The 400 wtq is pretty impressive. Must feel a bit more wild on throttle.

 

[Brokenblinker]

I already have a dyno chart without the JB4 which was my last run. Here's the page on my project thread which shows the last dyno run with all the mods I have up to that point.

📓 Journals - Adding Lightness

The Aerie tips are titanium and look really nice if you want that look on the car. They're about 6 inches long and definitely have that aftermarket tuner look. They're very light weight too. They do look good

www.emiraforum.com

I got the all-clear from Burger that my data log looked good, so tomorrow I'm going to do a 100 mile run (50 out and back) then go to the dyno shop and see when I can get a time for a dyno run. I'll post that up on my project thread soon as I have it.

Ah ok.

I understand that it's your money and we are thankful regardless. But same dyno, same conditions, same day would be the golf standard for allowing a comparison.