Nitron Suspension Development

[Cutting42]

I think the lowered Emira’s look weird with the wheel edge at the top of the arch and the slides of the arch at the normal distance. Not a fan of such a big drop.

 

[Roland]

I think the lowered Emira’s look weird with the wheel edge at the top of the arch and the slides of the arch at the normal distance. Not a fan of such a big drop.

I popped on the stand, certainly interesting, especially the electronics being developed. They also mention to email them for an invite to I believe was like coffee and reveal meeting at Winey, Oxford.

Roland

 

[Yachtie]

For me the car is perfect as is……..

 

[Green]

Definitely first mod. Some people like 4x4’s and some do not 🤷‍♂️ each there own but I already have a 4x4 truck.

 

[DaaS]

Definitely first mod. Some people like 4x4’s and some do not 🤷‍♂️ each there own but I already have a 4x4 truck.

I don’t know if you have seen one in person, but IMO it does not have a 4x4 look. Having said that, I wouldn’t mind a 10mm drop 😁

Stock Magma with Cup 2 tires. Shadows are covering part of the tire sidewall, so it looks higher than it is.

 

[freefall_junkie]

My car on a flat bit of road. I'm sure the Nitrons will be great, but purely from an aesthetic point of view I think the standard ride height is just fine.

 

[meccanisti]

Has anyone actually driven the car back to back Touring -> Nitrons and can comment on the ride quality/any improvements?

 

[kitkat]

Has anyone actually driven the car back to back Touring -> Nitrons and can comment on the ride quality/any improvements?

Don't think I've seen anyone mention this but you're likely going to be in for a drastic shock if you compare touring to even the mildest Nitron setup.

Touring:
Front: 55 N/mm
Rear: 110 N/mm
Damping: Soft enough for harsh UK roads.

Sport:
Front: 60 N/mm
Rear: 115 N/mm
Damping: Considerably more aggressive damping than touring.

Nitron NTR R1 Fastroad:
Front: 70 N/mm
Rear: 114 N/mm
Damping: Similar valving to sports according to their website.

Nitron NTR R1 Clubsport:
Front: 105 N/mm
Rear: 149 N/mm
Damping: Likely the same damper as the NTR R1 Fastroad with enough adjustment range to match the considerably stiffer springs.

Nitron NTR R3 Clubsport:
Has both Fastroad and Clubsport springs from above.
Damping: Likely has enough range to for both spring setups and has independent high speed compression, low speed compression and rebound.

Nitron NTR R3 Racepro:
Front: 149 N/mm
Rear: 202 N/mm
Damping: Even more damping than R3 Clubsport I'm sure.

 

[meccanisti]

Depends, doesn't it? A lot of ride comfort comes from the quality of the shock, not the softness of the springs. I have a 911 on rosejoints and KW Clubsports and it rides better than a standard car everywhere except very low speed bumpy roads.

 

[kitkat]

Depends, doesn't it? A lot of ride comfort comes from the quality of the shock, not the softness of the springs. I have a 911 on rosejoints and KW Clubsports and it rides better than a standard car everywhere except very low speed bumpy roads.

I’d argue that in the end comfort really comes down to ride frequency which is a function of spring rates as opposed to damping. Damping can only do so much to mask that — as you’re experiencing with low speed bumpy roads.

 

[meccanisti]

Depends on whether you're expecting it to ride like a Rolls or just do a competant job at controlling the body over bumpy roads at anything other than in-town (which the standard Touring suspension is excellent at).

Perhaps I should have been more specific in my definition of ride quality and my expectations in a sports car.

 

[Johnda1]

Emira with Nitrons

Not sure if anyone else saw this at Goodwood. It certainly makes the car look better - interesting to drive it and see what difference it makes. I believe there might be an opportunity to do this later in the month. This is the ultra low set up (35mm lower than standard) so probably a bit too much for normal use. However various other heights / options are available. They are also working on an electronically adjustable option.

I missed this at Goodwood - I wonder if over time, once shocks and springs have worn in, the standard set up may sit a little lower? Saying that I'd like to se it sat 15-20mm lower I guess. I was speaking to the guy at C & M and he said Lotus don't recommend going more than 15mm lower! The worry I have is that the ride will be messed up - I, and everyone else who's been in my car can't believe how comfortable and how well the car rides as standard (I'm on touring chassis)

 

[Dabjbr]

My car on a flat bit of road. I'm sure the Nitrons will be great, but purely from an aesthetic point of view I think the standard ride height is just fine.

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Yeah, I'm a fan of the spacing being equal the entire perimeter between the tire and fender. Stock looks perfect to me.

 

[meccanisti]

I missed this at Goodwood - I wonder if over time, once shocks and springs have worn in, the standard set up may sit a little lower? Saying that I'd like to se it sat 15-20mm lower I guess. I was speaking to the guy at C & M and he said Lotus don't recommend going more than 15mm lower! The worry I have is that the ride will be messed up - I, and everyone else who's been in my car can't believe how comfortable and how well the car rides as standard (I'm on touring chassis)

100% agree on this.

 

[hagen111]

In my opinion the Emira is one of the cars that looks a million times better when lowered about 2 cm - it deserves to be low! Once lowered it looks so much meaner and more like a high end supercar...I lowered mine and absolutely love the stance. Used the 3way Nitron dampers and springs. More expensive but also add to the quality of the ride. Please mind standard setup is not all defined by best possible product, but also by the bean counters and how much it could cost. Adding high-end product/solution from an aftermarket specialist kit like Nitron - which I can highly recommend - can also improve ride quality - provided it's dailed in and setup properly.

My Emira is so much sharper at turn in, something that disappointed me when test driving standard Emira (compared to my old Exile V6 also on Nitrons)...it's much more like a 911 GT3 now. I prefer this.

 

[silent cilantro]

Looks like Nitron's elec-TRON kit is ready

 

[kitkat]

Looks like Nitron's elec-TRON kit is ready

Hope they release more about the controller and how it’s tuned, what kind of adjustment is available, or if it’s dynamic like the DSC systems.

 

[silent cilantro]

yeah, that last one says "compatible with oem ride control" wonder if they mean it can be tied to tour, sport and track modes. That would be really cool.

 

[VL3X]

yeah, that last one says "compatible with oem ride control" wonder if they mean it can be tied to tour, sport and track modes. That would be really cool.

Must be a generic description since Lotus has passive Bilsteins and the different drive modes can't change dampening.

 

[silent cilantro]

yeah no I know that, I meant I wonder if they are going to make the electronic control module for their elec-TRON supension work with the OEM switch.