Emira Issues - from final production cars

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I think the issue is how the cars are being built not the parts, lots of new people building cars under pressure that have never done that kind of thing before?
 

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I've been away from the forum for a few months, ever since I canceled my deposit.

However, do we know if there's any hard-hitting journalism investigating these issues with Lotus directly? Or any new Matt Windle interview confronting him with these issues?

I'm thinking contacting the media would be the only way to get this straightened out quickly for everyone globally, just not sure which or how... 🤔
 

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Well, at least it wasn’t a 7 hour wait..
 

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I've been away from the forum for a few months, ever since I canceled my deposit.

However, do we know if there's any hard-hitting journalism investigating these issues with Lotus directly? Or any new Matt Windle interview confronting him with these issues?

I'm thinking contacting the media would be the only way to get this straightened out quickly for everyone globally, just not sure which or how... 🤔
I can see it now. "English cottage-industry car company has some problems with some of its cars. No cars in US affected. Story at 11."
 

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So, AA found a number of fault codes, the most worrying related to throttle valve. He cleared them, started engine and they immediately reappeared. He suggested driving the car home as he wasn’t able to tow and the vehicle was drivable.

5 mins on motorway and engine in limp mode again. 40mph all the way to next services, vehicle now stuck in limp mode and revs are all over the place when idling, definitely a throttle valve issue.

We’re now waiting for a tow truck. Possible 7 hour wait apparently. This is our first night away without kids my wife and I have managed in 4 years! Concert missed and evening ruined.

I’m sure I will calm down eventually but I’m feeling quite bitter about the situation. I’d hoped there would be an offer of a courtesy car to continue our journey. Right now I don’t want to see the car ever again and a full refund..
I have just read your post from today, it sounds all too familiar to me, unfortunately.

If you're serious about rejecting the car, push customer care to proceed in that direction. I'm happy to share my experience if it helps.
 

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I have just read your post from today, it sounds all too familiar to me, unfortunately.

If you're serious about rejecting the car, push customer care to proceed in that direction. I'm happy to share my experience if it helps.
Thanks, I'll see how I feel in the morning. It's a phenomenal car when it works..

I'd be interested to hear about your experience, and the outcome with Lotus.
 

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I've been away from the forum for a few months, ever since I canceled my deposit.

However, do we know if there's any hard-hitting journalism investigating these issues with Lotus directly? Or any new Matt Windle interview confronting him with these issues?

I'm thinking contacting the media would be the only way to get this straightened out quickly for everyone globally, just not sure which or how... 🤔
How long did it take to get your deposit back?
 

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I recall that when I worked for a medical oxygen concentrator company that was introducing a state-of-the-art, portable unit with advanced oxygen flow monitoring and relevant electronics, software, sensors, and compressor, I was tasked with setting up a large-scale burn-in area that required many temperature-switched exhaust fans above the dozen, multi-shelf racks to hold the concentrators. Power within that building needed to be upgraded to handle the much-increased power load.
The concentrators were run for 72 hours straight, and only after having no issues/warning lights was any of them allowed to ship to customers. Perhaps Lotus needs to do the same type of "burn-in" before selling any Emira.
Years later, I've done the same with my hobby products - kinetic watch winders and large fitness clocks, only my burn-in was for a much longer time period.

In other words, don't use customers as burn-in testers!
 
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I've been away from the forum for a few months, ever since I canceled my deposit.

However, do we know if there's any hard-hitting journalism investigating these issues with Lotus directly? Or any new Matt Windle interview confronting him with these issues?

I'm thinking contacting the media would be the only way to get this straightened out quickly for everyone globally, just not sure which or how... 🤔
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How long did it take to get your deposit back?
I'm in the US and I recall the dealer finance guy called me back within a couple of days after I spoke and requested it from the GM. They put it back on the card, but could only use one not two cards like with my original two deposits. Overall, it was painless, thank goodness.
 

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I'm in the US and I recall the dealer finance guy called me back within a couple of days after I spoke and requested it from the GM. They put it back on the card, but could only use one not two cards like with my original two deposits. Overall, it was painless, thank goodness.
That's good to know. Being 80 miles from the closest dealership, plus all the issues I am seeing here have gotten me thinking of going another route when it comes to buying a competent sportscar. My first new car, a 2001 Corvette had a good drivetrain but bad electronics components and gaskets. I'd rather not go down that path again.
 

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Thanks, I'll see how I feel in the morning. It's a phenomenal car when it works..

I'd be interested to hear about your experience, and the outcome with Lotus.
Having experienced a very similar breakdown with our Emira and the same frustration I can tell you it will look better in the morning. Agree we should not be subject to this but the consolation is when running they are spectacular
 

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Anybody have a look through the Asian forums yet. Google translate does an OK job of picking up chatter about paint problems. Ugggggg
 

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Are there no people from the factory or dealerships reading this forum? It would be interesting to hear their side of the story.
There was that Mr. D guy, but everytime he posts it gets deleted.
 

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Are there no people from the factory or dealerships reading this forum? It would be interesting to hear their side of the story.
There was that Mr. D guy, but everytime he posts it gets deleted.

We have been told by Tom and a few others that Lotus do read the forums but do not post here with a couple of rare exceptions.

There have also been a couple of self claimed factory workers usually posting negative stuff - Mr D included - that disappear fairly fast. I suspect these are trolls or workers with a gripe, possibly former workers. I also suspect that their posts disappear after someone from Lotus contacts the admins.
 

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We have been told by Tom and a few others that Lotus do read the forums but do not post here with a couple of rare exceptions.

There have also been a couple of self claimed factory workers usually posting negative stuff - Mr D included - that disappear fairly fast. I suspect these are trolls or workers with a gripe, possibly former workers. I also suspect that their posts disappear after someone from Lotus contacts the admins.

Yup. That specific user was warned and issued temporary bans numerous times and continued to break rules. I reached out privately asking for proof of his claims and got no response every time. This isn't a forum for disgruntled workers (past or current) to vent about their employer (it initially started with complaints about holiday pay). Without responding to our private messages and without providing any evidence to the validity of his claims, and after numerous terms violations, we issued a permanent ban.
 

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Are there no people from the factory or dealerships reading this forum? It would be interesting to hear their side of the story.
There was that Mr. D guy, but everytime he posts it gets deleted.

He said he took early retirement wanting to put he skills to use as if you work for Lotus you should be able to have a pride in your work - rather than the Chinese pushing the numbers through at the cost of quality ?
 

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