The official Lotus Emira Deposit thread

[andrew6382]

The US process is on my list for discussion with Lotus this upcoming week, will try to get more clarity.

Still say they should be paying you

 

[TomE]

Then my impartiality would be in question

 

[andrew6382]

Then my impartiality would be in question

Yes may be... this could be true.... but think you are a man of character.... and would not let money sway you. I would like to think you would hold them to account.... tell them as it should be

 

[SloAlfa]

Frankly, dealers were all over the place with first and second deposits. (Different amounts). 100%, my dealer said they will be taking that second deposit which then makes the first and second non-refundable. Your dealer choosing to not have customers pay the second deposit seems to be a way for them to guarantee they still get a car. If the customer backs out they will sell it and charge way over sticker to someone that never were on the list. Second non-refundable deposit is the best way to weed out people that were just trying to game the system or just got excited to early. My opinion, If they don’t pay a second non-refundable deposit, go to the next patient person in line.

 

[Mike-engel]

Frankly, dealers were all over the place with first and second deposits. (Different amounts). 100%, my dealer said they will be taking that second deposit which then makes the first and second non-refundable. Your dealer choosing to not have customers pay the second deposit seems to be a way for them to guarantee they still get a car. If the customer backs out they will sell it and charge way over sticker to someone that never were on the list. Second non-refundable deposit is the best way to weed out people that were just trying to game the system or just got excited to early. My opinion, If they don’t pay a second non-refundable deposit, go to the next patient person in line.

I’m not going to ascribe any intent to their approach since I don’t know. It may very well be that they will do exactly as you say and simply refund the deposit of the person who bows out, move on to the next person in line and keep doing that until someone places a build order (essentially making the commitment). He implied that would be the approach. That would certainly be the honorable thing to do.

 

[SloAlfa]

I’m not going to ascribe any intent to their approach since I don’t know. It may very well be that they will do exactly as you say and simply refund the deposit of the person who bows out, move on to the next person in line and keep doing that until someone places a build order (essentially making the commitment). He implied that would be the approach. That would certainly be the honorable thing to do.

Unless there is skin (financial) in the game, there really isn’t a commitment is there. Also, honorable and car dealers usually don’t usually make the same sentence. Lol. You say that it would be horrible for someone to jump the line but it would be worse to me a dealer game the system and award a customer that never was on the list and line their pockets. I hope they don’t do that.

 

[Eagle7]

If Lotus can produce 100 cars a week, then it would take 7 weeks to produce 700 cars. Starting in September, they could have all 700 cars produced by the third week of October, which gives them plenty of time to ship all 700 cars by the end of December.

 

[Mike-engel]

Unless there is skin (financial) in the game, there really isn’t a commitment is there. Also, honorable and car dealers usually don’t usually make the same sentence. Lol. You say that it would be horrible for someone to jump the line but it would be worse to me a dealer game the system and award a customer that never was on the list and line their pockets. I hope they don’t do that.

Lol. I like to assume the best intentions when dealing with individuals. It’s impersonal systems that give me pause.

 

[SloAlfa]

If Lotus can produce 100 cars a week, then it would take 7 weeks to produce 700 cars. Starting in September, they could have all 700 cars produced by the third week of October, which gives them plenty of time to ship all 700 cars by the end of December

That would assume all cars being built were for the US market.

 

[Eagle7]

That would assume all cars being built were for the US market.

I think they are. It looks like the first half of this year is production for all the U.K. cars (right-hand drive), then they'll switch to North America production starting in September.

 

[SloAlfa]

I think they are. It looks like the first half of this year is production for all the U.K. cars (right-hand drive), then they'll switch to North America production starting in September.

Let’s hope so. There are other countries that have left hand drive. . Not being difficult, just assume the number won’t be just US market or even North America.

I think the schedule posted looks to be probably the most realistic. still have doubts of 700 cars making it here this year.

 

[Eagle7]

I don't think that's how it works... plus the production schedule has already been highlighted and it's monthly starting September through the next year for North America.

Well yes they aren't stopping in December. I'm just relaying what the guy at Bellevue said. He double-checked and they said all 700 North America cars scheduled for this year will be delivered from October to December.

 

[Magma]

Well yes they aren't stopping in December. I'm just relaying what the guy at Bellevue said. He double-checked and they said all 700 North America cars scheduled for this year will be delivered from October to December.

OK I have Allison checking in on this again as well. Hopefully we'll get some clarification soon. I honestly hope you are right, but not holding my breath either.

 

[TomE]

I have a hunch it'll be about 60% of production in Q4 going to North America. So that delivers 700 cars in Oct-Dec and the other 450 for UK/ROW (or WONA )

 

[TXEMIRA]

Cost of shipping.

It’s simple really. If someone is just willing to pay the cost of shipping - they should be able to get a car in the order of their deposit.

Heck. I’d go for a RHD at this point.
It’s ridiculous to have to ask these questions at this point.

It should all be known by now.

Shipping.
Just tell us what it would cost.

 

[Maverick1]

The US process is on my list for discussion with Lotus this upcoming week, will try to get more clarity.

While you're at it can you please ask about Canada too.

 

[NicolasB]

I have a hunch it'll be about 60% of production in Q4 going to North America. So that delivers 700 cars in Oct-Dec and the other 450 for UK/ROW (or WONA )

So... Canada included?

 

[FederGigant]

I think they are. It looks like the first half of this year is production for all the U.K. cars (right-hand drive), then they'll switch to North America production starting in September.

If it helps: We also have left hand drive in Germany and I'll get mine in July (ordered mid October 21). That means that at least Germany, but maybe the whole European countries are getting their cars before the US. And that means that there are a lot more cars to build than just UK ones.

 

[TXEMIRA]

If it helps: We also have left hand drive in Germany and I'll get mine in July (ordered mid October 21). That means that at least Germany, but maybe the whole European countries are getting their cars before the US. And that means that there are a lot more cars to build than just UK ones.

I am happy you’re in there so early. Odd how it all works but still very exciting!

 

[TomE]

So... Canada included?

Yes, the 700 figure being rumoured is for North America in total