Emira JB4 Tuning Now Available for I4 & V6 Cars!

[FST]

Interesting

 

[BobbyG]

Confusing to say the least. My scheduled install is early July, so maybe the easier OBD set up will be available

 

[Barcino2012]

Go figure, this was their response to me…

I agree, somewhat cryptic, looking back at my response I got in early May was similar saying that for more power and more advanced features OBD was needed, “most people will start out on Map 1, which is pretty mild”

I think it is as said before, even if you get select map2 w/o OBD, you get similar performance like map1, and/or it is basically map 1….

I connected the OBD through that firewall grommet together with my kicker sub power wire, and I am very pleased on both improvements

 

[Lotus F1]

That's kinda messed up this wasn't made clear from the beginning. Even nothing about it on the videos

 

[crestima]

That's kinda messed up this wasn't made clear from the beginning. Even nothing about it on the videos

Agree, but frankly, for whatever it's worth, this debate "to OBD or Not to OBD?" is pretty easy settle ourselves. The kit's included OBDII connector wire is long and thin enough to simply run it temporarily from under the dash to the outside channeling it through a small opening of the driver's side window, then back in to the engine bay through the gap between the trunk lid and the rear quarter panel. Without definitively snaking the wire under panels, carpet and firewall, you could test it to determine if it's actually needed to switch mappings and, depending on your result, you could then decide for yourself which way you'll prefer to go.
As I said a couple of times here already, my distinct impression is that you don't need the wired OBDII connection to switch between maps and, not having connected mine to the OBDII yet, I just can't believe the difference in power I felt between M1 and M2 mappings was only a figment of my imagination. By now, I would have already performed the above-mentioned test, but I'm currently in Europe and my Emira is in Miami, so as soon as I return (early July) this will be the first thing I'll be testing unless, of course, by then Burger figures out an alternative connection to the OBDII inside the engine bay.

 

[Lotus F1]

Agree, but frankly, for whatever it's worth, this debate "to OBD or Not to OBD?" is pretty easy settle ourselves. The kit's included OBDII connector wire is long and thin enough to simply run it temporarily from under the dash to the outside channeling it through a small opening of the driver's side window, then back in to the engine bay through the gap between the trunk lid and the rear quarter panel. Without definitively snaking the wire under panels, carpet and firewall, you could test it to determine if it's actually needed to switch mappings and, depending on your result, you could then decide for yourself which way you'll prefer to go.
As I said a couple of times here already, my distinct impression is that you don't need the wired OBDII connection to switch between maps and, not having connected mine to the OBDII yet, I just can't believe the difference in power I felt between M1 and M2 mappings was only a figment of my imagination. By now, I would have already performed the above-mentioned test, but I'm currently in Europe and my Emira is in Miami, so as soon as I return (early July) this will be the first thing I'll be testing unless, of course, by then Burger figures out an alternative connection to the OBDII inside the engine bay.

Well I can appreciate your optimism it is clearly stated that although you can choose other maps none of them would be activated without that wire. I'm also in the Miami area when you get back hit me up maybe we can do a little run and see how my TDI compares to your JB4

 

[Lotus F1]

Agree, but frankly, for whatever it's worth, this debate "to OBD or Not to OBD?" is pretty easy settle ourselves. The kit's included OBDII connector wire is long and thin enough to simply run it temporarily from under the dash to the outside channeling it through a small opening of the driver's side window, then back in to the engine bay through the gap between the trunk lid and the rear quarter panel. Without definitively snaking the wire under panels, carpet and firewall, you could test it to determine if it's actually needed to switch mappings and, depending on your result, you could then decide for yourself which way you'll prefer to go.
As I said a couple of times here already, my distinct impression is that you don't need the wired OBDII connection to switch between maps and, not having connected mine to the OBDII yet, I just can't believe the difference in power I felt between M1 and M2 mappings was only a figment of my imagination. By now, I would have already performed the above-mentioned test, but I'm currently in Europe and my Emira is in Miami, so as soon as I return (early July) this will be the first thing I'll be testing unless, of course, by then Burger figures out an alternative connection to the OBDII inside the engine bay.

Well I can appreciate your optimism it is clearly stated that although you can choose other maps none of them would be activated. I am in the Miami area as well Hit me up when you get back and we can compare your jP4 with my TDI and see real world performance differences

 

[crestima]

Sure, sounds good. Let's exchange contact info via PM to follow up in July.

 

[David s]

Simple way to put it, we are a much more advanced tuning system vs the latter. No other piggyback will ever come close to what the JB4 system offers, they use a very rudimentary way of doing things.

JB4 Frequently Asked Questions

The differences between a JB4 vs flash tune and JB4 vs racechip explained in depth.

burgertuning.com

Whatever way the JB4 does what it does, it bl

Wait what? I need the data cable for Map2? I would have skipped the Bluetooth for the data cable.
Can any other Bluetooth only people confirm this?

think I’ll check this one myself. Sounds nonsensical to me. No offence.

 

[David s]

Agree, but frankly, for whatever it's worth, this debate "to OBD or Not to OBD?" is pretty easy settle ourselves. The kit's included OBDII connector wire is long and thin enough to simply run it temporarily from under the dash to the outside channeling it through a small opening of the driver's side window, then back in to the engine bay through the gap between the trunk lid and the rear quarter panel. Without definitively snaking the wire under panels, carpet and firewall, you could test it to determine if it's actually needed to switch mappings and, depending on your result, you could then decide for yourself which way you'll prefer to go.
As I said a couple of times here already, my distinct impression is that you don't need the wired OBDII connection to switch between maps and, not having connected mine to the OBDII yet, I just can't believe the difference in power I felt between M1 and M2 mappings was only a figment of my imagination. By now, I would have already performed the above-mentioned test, but I'm currently in Europe and my Emira is in Miami, so as soon as I return (early July) this will be the first thing I'll be testing unless, of course, by then Burger figures out an alternative connection to the OBDII inside the engine bay.

Found exactly the same.

 

[NoFear99]

No need to pass the cable under the dash trim or under the sill door panel, just route the cable between the center console and the driver’s seat.

 

[TurboTambo]

Simple way to put it, we are a much more advanced tuning system vs the latter. No other piggyback will ever come close to what the JB4 system offers, they use a very rudimentary way of doing things.

JB4 Frequently Asked Questions

The differences between a JB4 vs flash tune and JB4 vs racechip explained in depth.

burgertuning.com

What makes the JB4 better that a truely universal piggyback like the ECUMaster DET3?

 

[Lotus F1]

What makes the JB4 better that a truely universal piggyback like the ECUMaster DET3?

Cracking not only the Mercedes-Benz software but also the lotus software. To date no one has done both on the Turbo variant

 

[TurboTambo]

Cracking not only the Mercedes-Benz software but also the lotus software. To date no one has done both on the Turbo variant

I'm not sure what's been cracked.... isn't it just a piggyback manipulating the factory ECU signals. Can't all piggybacks do this in some form?

 

[675430VME]

Cracking not only the Mercedes-Benz software but also the lotus software. To date no one has done both on the Turbo variant

They didn't crack the lock on ecu but the CANbus connection. Without CANBUS for logging, other piggyback will only up the boost just slightly for safety reason. JB4 is able to achieve higher boost because using log they are able to tell what the limit is for each individual car with it’s different variables

 

[675430VME]

I'm not sure what's been cracked.... isn't it just a piggyback manipulating the factory ECU signals. Can't all piggybacks do this in some form?

They didn't crack the lock on ecu but the CANbus connection. Without CANBUS for logging, other piggyback will only up the boost just slightly for safety reason. JB4 is able to achieve higher boost because using log they are able to tell what the limit is for each individual car with it’s different variables

 

[TurboTambo]

They didn't crack the lock on ecu but the CANbus connection. Without CANBUS for logging, other piggyback will only up the boost just slightly for safety reason. JB4 is able to achieve higher boost because using log they are able to tell what the limit is for each individual car with it’s different variables

But isn't that pretty much the same as this???:

The DIGITAL ECU TUNER 3 is a very popular piggyback tuning device across Europe. The DET3 is probably the most capable piggyback tuning device for its size. The DET3 is incredibly versatile, user friendly and powerful.

For most applications, the DET3 allows for the removal of an airflow meter, can drive up to 4 injectors in batch fire and Ignition timing can be adjusted via 16×16 tables. The parametric output channels can be configured to control boost with the use of a boost control solenoid, nitrous activation, water or methanol injection control, etc. Launch control and map switching are also among the advanced features available to the end user. In “Fuel Implant” mode, the DET3 operates much like a standalone ECU, calculating fuel requirements based on RPM, IAT, CLT, TPS and even O2 feedback.

 

[675430VME]

But isn't that pretty much the same as this???:

The DIGITAL ECU TUNER 3 is a very popular piggyback tuning device across Europe. The DET3 is probably the most capable piggyback tuning device for its size. The DET3 is incredibly versatile, user friendly and powerful.

For most applications, the DET3 allows for the removal of an airflow meter, can drive up to 4 injectors in batch fire and Ignition timing can be adjusted via 16×16 tables. The parametric output channels can be configured to control boost with the use of a boost control solenoid, nitrous activation, water or methanol injection control, etc. Launch control and map switching are also among the advanced features available to the end user. In “Fuel Implant” mode, the DET3 operates much like a standalone ECU, calculating fuel requirements based on RPM, IAT, CLT, TPS and even O2 feedback.

I haven't heard of it but from what you described this piggyback could be even better than the JB4, so does it support the Emira?