Emira and Quick Jack

[00grubb]

Found this on Costco.co.uk, Thinking of buying one myself

I got my quickjacks from Costco a few years ago - great sales! I've used them on a Saab, Mini, Defender 110 200TDI, Subaru, and even created a custom motorcycle lift using them....game changer and I highly recommend them.
Would be great to have a full height lift...next house I guess

 

[Tonygcar]

I’m a bit new to this thread so which quick jack will pick up both the front and back lifting points, I won’t be sliding them between the wheels mine will live under the car when laid flat I will park over them so length probably won’t matter if that makes sense. If anyone has done this it would be a great help, I don’t want to buy the wrong one and do a mod to make it fit, Pics would be appreciated of the car on both lifting points and if not possible with the quick jacks is there an alternative make/type out there
Cheers Tony

 

[EmiraMike53]

Used it on Esprit Exige and now Emira but only transversely.

The staggered arrangement of the jacking points make their use a tad challenging until you 'find a way'.

See the use of a small length of timber and a hockey puck on the NSF jacking point.....

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WOW, I purchased a quick jack for my GT4RS and didn't realize they made different length ones. Way to think outside the box! Now I'll try that with my Emira!

 

[scc.131.fe]

... which quick jack will pick up both the front and back lifting points,...

The 7000TLX is not long enough for both factory lift points.

Even if you get a set long enough to hit both lifting points on one side, your challenge may be the inboard-offset of the fwd lifting points.

- A quickjack that is long enough to hit both lift points on one side probably won't be wide enough to hit both if it the jacks are installed parallel (as-intended), and they would be too long to fit between the front and rear tires.

- Installing longer quickjacks at an angle (think "toe in"), to avoid hitting the front tires and catching the inboard front jack points, will result in the two jacks approaching each other as they lift, which may result in the lifting blocks moving around laterally in the trays, or hitting the walls of the tray and then creating a preload (side force) on the lifting block or jack. this could result in the block shifting out from under the lift point or just stressing the jack in an unintended direction.

This is why most, if not all, Emira quickjack users just place the forward lifting block on the front subframe rail location in-line with the rear jack point. this keeps the quickjacks parallel and still lifts the front of the car at reinforced structure.

If not using the Lotus-specified front jack points is a show-stopper for you, then you can search this thread or others (incl Lotus Talk for Evoras) and look at those who have either used a cross-member between quickjacks or actually installed the quickjacks 'sideways' (neither of which appeal to me).

You can also consider just getting four of these and using a compressor:
Vevor Air Jack
The air jack is 5.5" high when deflated, so you'd want to drive the Emira up on some mats or lumber to gain an inch or so.

 

[Tonygcar]

The 7000TLX is not long enough for both factory lift points.

Even if you get a set long enough to hit both lifting points on one side, your challenge may be the inboard-offset of the fwd lifting points.

- A quickjack that is long enough to hit both lift points on one side probably won't be wide enough to hit both if it the jacks are installed parallel (as-intended), and they would be too long to fit between the front and rear tires.

- Installing longer quickjacks at an angle (think "toe in"), to avoid hitting the front tires and catching the inboard front jack points, will result in the two jacks approaching each other as they lift, which may result in the lifting blocks moving around laterally in the trays, or hitting the walls of the tray and then creating a preload (side force) on the lifting block or jack. this could result in the block shifting out from under the lift point or just stressing the jack in an unintended direction.

This is why most, if not all, Emira quickjack users just place the forward lifting block on the front subframe rail location in-line with the rear jack point. this keeps the quickjacks parallel and still lifts the front of the car at reinforced structure.

If not using the Lotus-specified front jack points is a show-stopper for you, then you can search this thread or others (incl Lotus Talk for Evoras) and look at those who have either used a cross-member between quickjacks or actually installed the quickjacks 'sideways' (neither of which appeal to me).

You can also consider just getting four of these and using a compressor:
Vevor Air Jack
The air jack is 5.5" high when deflated, so you'd want to drive the Emira up on some mats or lumber to gain an inch or so.

Thanks for this information makes sense, I don’t fancy lifting the car on the front sub frame although it’s probably ok, I have lifted the car with a long reach low profile jack off the back lifting point to remove the wheels when I swapped out the centre badges from yellow to black and silver, I don’t think I’ll get the quick jacks, there’s a garage close to me that rents out their 2 and four post lifts so if I want I can use them

 

[seneca blew me]

Quick data point:

Quickjack 7000 TL - tall QJ blocks (fit with about 1” of clearance on my new Emira Sport)

Pushed backward to within about an inch of the rear tire.

Front block as far backward as it will go just before the “turn” of the chassis (it’s actually on the back half of the chassis turn bracket).

Very Sturdy. No movement at all or flex when lifting while watching the front block.

Edit - front block is as far BACK as it will go

Are you using factory jackoints?

 

[WPNLITE]

Are you using factory jackoints?

“Front block as far backward as it will go just before the “turn” of the chassis (it’s actually on the back half of the chassis turn bracket).”

You can’t use the front factory jack point with quickjack of any sort unless you angle them “in” significantly (unless you use the QJ’s in the side to side direction instead of the conventional front to back. ). If you angle them then you are jacking the angles against each other as the car rises causing at the very least bad instability.

 

[papadop88]

Here's a video of how I used my Quickjacks this morning to replace brake pads...

These are the 6000 TLXs.

 

[alvitdk]

“Front block as far backward as it will go just before the “turn” of the chassis (it’s actually on the back half of the chassis turn bracket).”

You can’t use the front factory jack point with quickjack of any sort unless you angle them “in” significantly (unless you use the QJ’s in the side to side direction instead of the conventional front to back. ). If you angle them then you are jacking the angles against each other as the car rises causing at the very least bad instability.

Could you put a metal beam across the two front points and then on top of the quick jack?
I had a lift bar for my Porsche, which was strong enough to lift a whole side with one jack in the middle

 

[seneca blew me]

Here's a video of how I used my Quickjacks this morning to replace brake pads...

These are the 6000 TLXs.

Thanks- what would happen if you did utilize the factory front jack stands and orient the quick jacks slightly angled inward?

 

[WPNLITE]

Thanks- what would happen if you did utilize the factory front jack stands and orient the quick jacks slightly angled inward?

This has been addressed early in this thread. It wouldn’t be slight and it would introduce significant side to side movement of the jacks rather than them being parallel and it would be in danger of either damaging the jacks from the side loading or moving the jack points on the car as it’s lifted and potentially something catastrophic.

 

[00grubb]

Summarizing this - looks like these are appropriate jacking points, can be used/reached with quickjacks, are aligned and stable, and people have seen success using them. Unless I'm missing something...

 

[papadop88]

Summarizing this - looks like these are appropriate jacking points, can be used/reached with quickjacks, are aligned and stable, and people have seen success using them. Unless I'm missing something...

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Yes, these are totally fine as I show in my video as well. ZERO issues doing this as that frame is structurally sound. No need to overthink where to put the front points anywhere along that frame rail. Just make sure they don't touch the pastic side sills and you're fine. I had my car up on them for like 4 hours. Zero issues or stress.

Just keep the quickjacks parallel to each other and just position the rubber blocks accordingly. The QJ trays have enough space to move the blocks around in them as needed.

 

[seneca blew me]

Yes, these are totally fine as I show in my video as well. ZERO issues doing this as that frame is structurally sound. No need to overthink where to put the front points anywhere along that frame rail. Just make sure they don't touch the pastic side sills and you're fine. I had my car up on them for like 4 hours. Zero issues or stress.

Just keep the quickjacks parallel to each other and just position the rubber blocks accordingly. The QJ trays have enough space to move the blocks around in them as needed.

I just bought the quick jack 5000 tlx hope that will work for me just as well as the 6000 did for you?

 

[sawdust]

I just bought the quick jack 5000 tlx hope that will work for me just as well as the 6000 did for you?

You should be okay. I use BL-5000EXT that are almost 5 years old without any issues. But I do put blocks under the QuickJacks as back-ups when I go beneath the car just to be double safe.

 

[seneca blew me]

You should be okay. I use BL-5000EXT that are almost 5 years old without any issues. But I do put blocks under the QuickJacks as back-ups when I go beneath the car just to be double safe.

Why do you put blocks? do you have a reason to doubt the safety?
Which blocks do you put?
Can I put jackstands?

 

[sawdust]

Why do you put blocks? do you have a reason to doubt the safety?

See posts #29, #30, and especially #123.

I (like several other Emira and C8 owners with QJs) use the QuickJacks front-forward which is actually "backwards" for a rear-heavy car. See posts #115 and #179. @Eagle7 in post #116 points out the proper orientation for the QuickJacks.

The go-forward-as-it-lifts is more convenient for me and my garage layout than a go-backwards-as-it-lifts. So using the QuickJacks in a non-optimal orientation behooves me to take additional precautions.

Which blocks do you put?
Can I put jackstands?

I place a big, tall wooden block under each tray. (There's a tray at both ends of both sides.) See the posts I first mentioned for other setups.

 

[papadop88]

I just bought the quick jack 5000 tlx hope that will work for me just as well as the 6000 did for you?

Car only weighs 3K lbs so your 5000s will be plenty for the Lotus.

 

[Eagle7]

I just bought the quick jack 5000 tlx hope that will work for me just as well as the 6000 did for you?

The 5000 is rated for 5,000 lbs and the Emira weighs about 3,200 lbs, so it's more than adequate.

 

[RoyLopez]

Summarizing this - looks like these are appropriate jacking points, can be used/reached with quickjacks, are aligned and stable, and people have seen success using them. Unless I'm missing something...

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Good to know, thanks for these folks