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If I had a dealer very nearby I would probably have stayed. Mine is 2 hours away.

Bmw has been near the high end of reliability since in quality metrics. I’ve had excellent personal experience. The remarks from lotus owners have not been as positive. I understand that things have hopefully changed. But after all the hassle in trying to get parts I’ve come to realize that for...

Ok, I’m back in the OUT camp, this time for good. I was originally out due to disappointment in performance after initial reviews came out. Then I was back in after a test drive as I really enjoyed driving the car. I’m out for the final time (just placed a deposit and order for a Z4 roadster)...

In today’s world where it seems 1/2 the people are working from home or doing computer crap that doesn’t really accomplish anything REAL (“META” anyone…), I greatly appreciate EVERYONE who actually turns a wrench, puts a weld down or does anything that actually creates a physical item of value...

I posted “I’m out” because I figured there might be others who were on the fence and considering the same things I was and might find my thoughts interesting. Otherwise why are we all here? I left for months but after test drive (didn’t really need the deposit money back so kept it in just in...

OM gosh that paint swirls at 42 seconds in! hopefully that’s just unremoved wax/???

Must be luck of the Irish. Just two days ago a truck decides to pass me before an on ramp and cuts right in front of me spraying rocks all over my hood and cracking my windshield. Absolutely zero chance I will not ppf

I’m low 90s at Naples just a few days after you. Haven’t heard shit from them. No idea whatsoever when car may be available

The first thing you do in audio is get your levels right. Setting up a sound board for a live event - that’s job 1. Nothing else will be right unless you get the dynamics right and input levels are the first step

I may regret posting this but here it goes. Super long, but made from recycled electrons. tldr: my wife said “we’re buying this car, I’ve never seen you with such a smile on your face” I posted (I think) in the “I’m out” thread several months ago. I meant it. I was tired of the terrible...

I test drove at Naples today. Saw the reservation sheet and there were multiple open spots. Fwiw.

I was a hater big time ago until I saw it in person. Hate the Normal 4 series but the M4 I’ve found a new appreciation for. Not sure but I would guess 6-12 months

So I’m out too. Been on the fence for some time. Experience with dealer has been poor. Communication with lotus almost zero. Quality concerns and performance concerns for my use case have overwhelmed my initial infatuation with what is no doubt an absolutely beautiful car. If I could get one...

Now they deprecate but don’t depreciate which I don’t appreciate but do anticipate

That ye That yellow looks much less mustard than others I’ve seen. Better IMO

Been using YouTube for almost 20 years and didn’t know I could do that 😢😞🤪

I was end of first week and was told low 90s there so yah no way you’re in 60s at end of august. No FE for me either. Still on the fence anyway.

DIVX

Pics or it didn’t happen 😉

I’m a long time BMW owner and if this comes here I’m won’t be buying another one. Disgusting anyone else remember DIVX? This is the same shit. Fk subscriptions

I Wore Jean shorts and NB to top gun Maverick last night. Ooph you’re hitting me hard.

Thought you Brits drank real tea not the crap in bags #For the tea ball Steepers

Miami blue

Now the wheel gap makes sense

Bunches of excuses but this is spot on what carwow got as well. This car is just not fast and it’s very sad

I’m with you 100%. Cash buy or nothing. The banks can go pound sand.

Yes, human history is replete of adversarial events for sure.

Hell I can’t even find out where in line I am at my own local dealer. Lotus customer support sucks from my experience so far.

They must share the same customer relations department

Why do you say it’s not true - you can see the video and time it yourself.

Fixed that for you.

Matt Watson’s 5.3 second 0-60 is very concerning. I know everyone will find a reason to say it isn’t real or it doesn’t matter but… 4.3 was already slow, 5.3 in a car that looks like that is downright embarassing. I sure hope more data on this will be forthcoming and improved

Second guessing. Waiting until new m2 is reviewed or maybe a spyder or z4

I prefer the MC20, but it's twice the price

Alarm set and espresso machine filled

Those are very reasonable contrasts. It’s the carte blanche statements about how the M cars are not “real”sports cars when they go faster around the track that crack me up. Lotus are renowned for suspension and bmw most certainly not for steering. Those are well taken points

The new version is so forced and contrived like a sad sitcom with laughtrack piped in. That’s why I don’t watch since they canned Clarkson who was and is the soul of the show

Just keep hammering reload of this post - whoever posts the link first will be loved by all

I think interior and build quality is likely on Porsches side but otherwise I agree