Emira JB4 Tuning Now Available for I4 & V6 Cars!

[675430VME]

Do they know what is causing the Injectors to fail?

No we do not. All we know there might be a batch of defective injectors from factory and aggressive driving or engine related modification will be more likely for it to fail.

 

[675430VME]

I would hope any tuner, including piggyback developers, would measure injector flow rates....increase boost, increases air which in turn increases the need for more fuel.
Not enough fuel causes lean conditions and eventually problems including the fuel pump, quite linear...but you guys prolly know this anyway.

And dealing with my local lotus dealer for a simple tire warranty, there's no way they won't recover boost logs to bounce any warranty claims.....I've lost trust in my lotus dealership and by extension, hethel.

Our experience in our local dealership is quite the opposite, they are doing everything they can to keep us on the loop and how not to get rejected for warranty claims, but once if the car is connected to Hethel and they find out any supporting data it is out of their hands.

 

[crestima]

A constructive recommendation for the Forum's website developer...

There’s so much unnecessary confusion generated by post messages when authors don’t identity the engine configuration they’re referring to. There's hardly any relationship of powertrain issues emanating from i4 vs V6 and, in fewer instances, V6 manual vs auto. It would be ideal and more practical to include the Emira configuration as part of each member's signature section (upper left corner of each post), absent which, particularly when addressing powertrain matters, the alternative is tfor each author to repeatidly identify their own powertrain/transmission in each post.

 

[Rayjoedef]

Our experience in our local dealership is quite the opposite, they are doing everything they can to keep us on the loop and how not to get rejected for warranty claims, but once if the car is connected to Hethel and they find out any supporting data it is out of their hands.

That's cool but I'm pretty sure every dealership will tell you how not to get claims rejected....it'll be a resounding " don't move away from oem"

 

[675430VME]

That's cool but I'm pretty sure every dealership will tell you how not to get claims rejected....it'll be a resounding " don't move away from oem"

I can't tell you online but they do a lot more that, if you know what I mean.

 

[Rayjoedef]

I can't tell you online but they do a lot more that, if you know what I mean.

I know what you mean.....and I've had that relationship with my bmw dealership but I'm not there with my local lotus service center

 

[675430VME]

I know what you mean

Btw, I am not sure if this is the same practice in the states or different from China, but Lotus China encourages DIY jobs at the dealership. You can bring your own parts to you local dealer and its mechanics will help and guide you through the whole process, sometimes even change the parts for you if you can't get it right, all free of charge. We are able to get a lot of "info" in the process as well.

 

[seriously]

Btw, I am not sure if this is the same practice in the states or different from China, but Lotus China encourages DIY jobs at the dealership. You can bring your own parts to you local dealer and its mechanics will help and guide you through the whole process, sometimes even change the parts for you if you can't get it right, all free of charge. We are able to get a lot of "info" in the process as well.

I don't think this ever happens in the US

 

[crestima]

I don't think this ever happens in the US

I Also do not find the case to be similar with Florida dealerships, but actually, it has been been my experience with other car brands in Portugal where dealers have been constructively helpful with installing aftermarket parts and helpful in keeping manufacturers to honor their warranty coverages.

 

[David s]

My senior service advisor at my local dealer suggested I go back and do an injector test before I install my JB4. I will follow his advice just to be safe as there are at least 4 cars waiting for their injectors warranty claims. There is a total of 50ish Emira locally with a few that already got their injectors replaced, a 10% failure rate is quite high imo. And if it fails again after I installed my JB4, I don't mind paying out of my pocket because I am aware of the risk involved.

What?

 

[David s]

Where’s all the info on the injector issue?

In the bullshit safe. Anyone know the passcode?

 

[David s]

I have my Emira scheduled for 1,000 mile service week and I will certainly inquire about the injector issue.

News to me

I was told by a very reliable source that part/component quality in some areas of the Emira are not as good vs, the Evora.

O2 sensors being one example.

Maybe injectors as well???

Bobby. And he was told by someone that told him by someone that knew someone that worked for BMW.

 

[David s]

Can we retitle this topic “warranty worries”, and start a new “”JB4 experiences” topic?

 

[BobbyG]

Bobby. And he was told by someone that told him by someone that knew someone that worked for BMW.

Nope.

I don’t know anybody in BMW circles.

I personally had O2 sensor failures early in the life of my Emira, which was a known problem.

The injector thing didn’t come from me, but I’ll ask the service writer about it next week when I take the car to the dealer. See if there is any concern.

 

[Rayjoedef]

Btw, I am not sure if this is the same practice in the states or different from China, but Lotus China encourages DIY jobs at the dealership. You can bring your own parts to you local dealer and its mechanics will help and guide you through the whole process, sometimes even change the parts for you if you can't get it right, all free of charge. We are able to get a lot of "info" in the process as well.

Boy I would sure welcome that practice.....bring more enthusiasts into the fold without fear.....that said, it's all about margins here in the US so that's not going to happen.

 

[crestima]

What?

My reacting was similar. By the way, a 90% non-failure rate sounds darn good to me., even if it were true. It would likely be much better than one could expect from most auto components, specially involving mods. Happy to live with those odds

 

[David s]

Nope.

I don’t know anybody in BMW circles.

I personally had O2 sensor failures early in the life of my Emira, which was a known problem.

The injector thing didn’t come from me, but I’ll ask the service writer about it next week when I take the car to the dealer. See if there is any concern.

Fair enough mate. What I’ve seen usually s when a manufacturer notices a common fault, they recall the whole fleet and correct the problem. 10 injector faults out of 50 known cars is a lot of faults.
From what I read, it appears that most USA owner will be selling their cars after the warranty expires. Maybe the dreams of a number of happy future owners of second hand emira will get their lifelong wet dreams of buying an emira for $20k. All brought to you by current doomsday owners. Do you get what I’m saying?

 

[BobbyG]

Fair enough mate. What I’ve seen usually s when a manufacturer notices a common fault, they recall the whole fleet and correct the problem. 10 injector faults out of 50 known cars is a lot of faults.
From what I read, it appears that most USA owner will be selling their cars after the warranty expires. Maybe the dreams of a number of happy future owners of second hand emira will get their lifelong wet dreams of buying an emira for $20k. All brought to you by current doomsday owners. Do you get what I’m saying?

I do Sir.

My car is a long term ownership thing for me.

Other than the O2 sensor failures, my car has been bulletproof (knock on wood).

I love my Emira and although I don’t drive it as much as I would like it does bring a smile to my face when I get behind the wheel.

 

[Eagle7]

No we do not. All we know there might be a batch of defective injectors from factory and aggressive driving or engine related modification will be more likely for it to fail.

By any chance are you guys running gas above E10? Like E15, E20 or E85? That's a possible source of injector fouling.

 

[675430VME]

By any chance are you guys running gas above E10? Like E15, E20 or E85? That's a possible source of injector fouling.

No, it's not popular in China.