The definitive Hawk Brake Pad guide, with Low dust option

[boisecrawfords]

Ordered on the 28th arrived on the 3rd. It actually shipped from OH. First time ordering from them so YMMV. Best deal I've seen so far though is from Fidanza for $296 + shipping with code summer24

I don't see Lotus for a make, what make did you use? Or so you have the PN?

 

[gcmak]

Many here have said their OEM pads don't squeak. Looks like most people say the Hawk Ceramic don't squeak and will initially bite less.

FWIW, a number of us did have noise on the OEM factory pads - mine are Brembos and usually in the hotter conditions you mentioned. Hawk Ceramics have also been reported to make noise under certain conditions, mine also make noise sometimes at a certain temperature range. I find doing a very firm stop from 60mph down to 10mph helps reduce the noises for a while.

 

[squish]

I've noticed the stock pads on my 2025 (no idea what brand/model they are - the manual specifies brake fluid brand but no mention of pads) don't make noise when cold, but squeal embarrassingly loudly at every traffic light stop when they get warm after a modestly spirited drive, or even just regular around town now that summer is here. Many here have said their OEM pads don't squeak. Looks like most people say the Hawk Ceramic don't squeak and will initially bite less.
I'm wondering if the 2025's have a noisier brake pad, or it noise only when brakes are hot is not a pad problem at all and I should be troubleshooting something else?

Interestingly the manuals of both the '25 (page 196) and '22 (page 163) just basically say to expect noisy brakes:

My OEM pads squealed just as you described.

When I initially installed the Hawk pads, I ignored the included grease and installed them dry. The fronts squealed pretty bad then too. I took them back out and put the thinnest layer of the included grease on the backs of the front pads and the contact points of the pins and springs on the front calipers, and they have been virtually silent now going on 2k miles.

 

[Quasimoto]

Was planning to install the Hawks this weekend, but after reading a few comments about reduction in overall braking performance I’m on the fence now…

For those that have made the switch, is the tradeoff worth it? (Not worried about dust, just looking to reduce the initial grabbiness)

 

[BLUEMIRA]

Was planning to install the Hawks this weekend, but after reading a few comments about reduction in overall braking performance I’m on the fence now…

For those that have made the switch, is the tradeoff worth it? (Not worried about dust, just looking to reduce the initial grabbiness)

I have the Hawk pads installed.
Significant reduction in brake dust.
No squealing that I have noticed. They were installed by a shop that installs them on several cars.
I have not noticed a decrease in braking performance but I only have about 800 miles on them. 3000 miles total.
I have not tracked the car.

 

[Blackthought_]

Was planning to install the Hawks this weekend, but after reading a few comments about reduction in overall braking performance I’m on the fence now…

For those that have made the switch, is the tradeoff worth it? (Not worried about dust, just looking to reduce the initial grabbiness)

No not really. I just took them on an autocross and pushed them and they held up just fine. The minimal dust in itself is worth it

 

[gcmak]

Was planning to install the Hawks this weekend, but after reading a few comments about reduction in overall braking performance I’m on the fence now…

For those that have made the switch, is the tradeoff worth it? (Not worried about dust, just looking to reduce the initial grabbiness)

They're fine. Yes you have to push harder to lock up the tires but I prefer the modulation. It's held up fine to back to back runs on autocross and some repeated hard stops.

 

[boisecrawfords]

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Since nothing was shipping I bought from multiple places and forgot then everything arrived.

Willing to part with set of hawk and the EBC reds.

I'm interested in a set of your Hawks. Please let me know if still available please.

 

[boisecrawfords]

Ordered on the 28th arrived on the 3rd. It actually shipped from OH. First time ordering from them so YMMV. Best deal I've seen so far though is from Fidanza for $296 + shipping with code summer24

Kind of funny....you use the coupon code and about $15 off, but then have to pay $14 for shipping because the coupon code cancels free shipping.

 

[crainp]

Just talked to Hawk (USA), and they have the DTC70 for the rear but not the DTC60. Part HB585U.660.
The fronts they have the 60, part #HB586G.660, and the 70, part A#HB586U.660. I may run the 60 in the front and use ceramic or something softer than the 60 in the rear while I still have drilled rotors. Three track days and they are still going, to my surprise. Hawk says they only have the U (DTC70)and Z (ceramic) in the rears.

Change of plans after consulting with my race parts suppler: going to use DTC70 all around, and hope the drilled rotors last until something better comes along, AP or Girodisc maybe.

 

[Rapture]

Kind of funny....you use the coupon code and about $15 off, but then have to pay $14 for shipping because the coupon code cancels free shipping.

Add another very inexpensive item