Emira JB4 Tuning Now Available for I4 & V6 Cars!

[PatrickJS]

I brought this up in discussions with other Emira owners, Evora owners as well as 2/3eleven owners. Some Evora owners are well past 500Nm and the oem race version of the 3-eleven also comes with 525Nm from the factory. I couldn’t find evidence of those failing.

I’m not doubting Jubu’s experience with the engine but they also have incentives to sell you more parts and services.

Absolutely not trying to start a war here — but I think all of us here also recognize every modification has a certain amount of risk, if the risk is too high here, use the 91 octane map or just be happy with stock power and torque output and wait it out to see how people do.

I think Jubu is looking at this from a track-only perspective, where cars are running at 100% all the time. The truth is likely that both sides are correct. For track-only cars running at maximum capacity constantly, it's not ideal without upgrades. However, as we've seen in the BMW/Supra community, this is largely fine for regular driving (and probably even better for turbo cars since they can simply increase boost when needed).

With all that said, I won't want to use the max power map and as you suggested, the more conservative one is ideal.

 

[mr.suntorytime]

just fou9nd this site

Find 93 Octane Gas: Locate Gasoline Stations Selling Premium

93 Octane Gas Finder. Discover where to find gas stations in your area that have 93 octane gasoline!

find93.com

ill check to see if there are legit spots on the map still serving 93

 

[Nba19002]

just fou9nd this site

Find 93 Octane Gas: Locate Gasoline Stations Selling Premium

93 Octane Gas Finder. Discover where to find gas stations in your area that have 93 octane gasoline!

find93.com

ill check to see if there are legit spots on the map still serving 93

I contacted Laguna Seca racetrack, which is by where I live, to see if I could purchase high octane gas from them. Unfortunately, they do not sell to the public, they only sell the gas to those participating in track days. I did however get a recommendation to call another local company and that company will sell me 116 octane gas. This is a potential workaround for anyone who does not live near a 93 octane gas station. It is quite a bit more expensive, at around $125 for 5 gallons of 116 octane, but I think I can use 1 gallon of 116 octane and mix it with 10 or 11 gallons of 91 octane to end up slightly above 93 octane.

 

[PatrickJS]

if you guys are in cali theres should be a few gas station with 100oct (last i checked was $10 per gallon). in SJ/SoCal

 

[ADC]

So, stupid question: are the maps likely to be US-specific (given you guys had CARB-related tune changes as standard), or will they work without a hitch for us alien types? Is international support for this product generally considered pretty good?

 

[RoryBellows]

So, stupid question: are the maps likely to be US-specific (given you guys had CARB-related tune changes as standard), or will they work without a hitch for us alien types? Is international support for this product generally considered pretty good?

There's nothing CARB about this one. It comes with a track only disclaimer.

Of note the UK rates octane different than the US so you would have to do a rough conversion. Our 91 [(RON+MON)/2] is like your 95 (RON). US 93 is probably like a 97 there.

 

[GRP]

There's nothing CARB about this one. It comes with a track only disclaimer.

Of note the UK rates octane different than the US so you would have to do a rough conversion. Our 91 [(RON+MON)/2] is like your 95 (RON). US 93 is probably like a 97 there.

^This
You will be able to run the same maps, just make sure to account for the different fuel ratings -- 95euro petrol =91 US , 97-99euro = 93 US

 

[Ryan_929]

Boom! Can’t wait.

 

[David s]

Just did the same as Ryan. The difference is I payed in Australian Pesos.

 

[David s]

Does anyone know what “special order”. And what’s the estimated wait time on these products?

 

[Kaz]

Does anyone know what “special order”. And what’s the estimated wait time on these products?

Just means it's not in stock right now but Greg alreyoosted it should be shipping next week (few posts up)

 

[David s]

Just means it's not in stock right now but Greg alreyoosted it should be shipping next week (few posts up)

Sorry. Skipped that post.

 

[allenyao09]

93 gas is very hard to find around here. Would it be ok to run a 93 tune with 92 gas? Though I would probably stick with 91 tune just to be safe.

 

[675430VME]

93 gas is very hard to find around here. Would it be ok to run a 93 tune with 92 gas? Though I would probably stick with 91 tune just to be safe.

You can start with 91 tune and run log to see if the data is good. If you don't know how to read log you can email Greg at Burger Tuning and he will be able to tell you if you can move up. This is the core function of JB4 where you can actually see how your car is doing unlike other piggybacks that doesn't run on canbus.

 

[ManuelB]

You can start with 91 tune and run log to see if the data is good. If you don't know how to read log you can email Greg at Burger Tuning and he will be able to tell you if you can move up. This is the core function of JB4 where you can actually see how your car is doing unlike other piggybacks that doesn't run on canbus.

Considering how locked-down the AMG platform is — particularly on the Lotus Emira with the M139 engine — the key question is whether the JB4 is able to fully access and log CANbus data in real time, like it does brilliantly on BMW platforms. That would be essential to evaluate how well the system is adapting and performing.

From what I know, there are specific PIDs on this platform that are only accessible through "official" diagnostic access, and not through standard OBD channels. That makes me wonder whether JB4 can retrieve all the relevant engine and performance parameters needed for proper live logging.

@GRP can you help us on this one? Thanks in advance! Cheers!

 

[ADC]

There's nothing CARB about this one. It comes with a track only disclaimer.

Of note the UK rates octane different than the US so you would have to do a rough conversion. Our 91 [(RON+MON)/2] is like your 95 (RON). US 93 is probably like a 97 there.

^This
You will be able to run the same maps, just make sure to account for the different fuel ratings -- 95euro petrol =91 US , 97-99euro = 93 US

Cheers guys. I was aware of the whole RON situation, just curious whether the base maps in the ECU were different enough in your market versus RoW to throw the piggyback a curveball

This is firmly on my post-warranty-period shopping list.

 

[Six Speed Stephen]

Can anyone answer if this increases or reduces the "burbles" that the factory tune has? I think it's actually quite rowdy (especially with TI exhaust and 3rd cat delete), so I'm curious if this increases, decreases, or remains roughly the same - @mr.suntorytime any feedback with the testing here?

On the website FAQ it says that it doesn't change the burbles

 

[NoFear99]

Order placed !

My car is a V6 SC and I wonder Greg if the power gain is reached the easy way by increasing the boost level ?

I hope not because it would create / generate more heat.

On my side I dont think boost level can be increase with a SC car without changing the pulley physically but I may be wrong.

Also regarding the installation, do you know if there is a cable that will need to be route from the engine bay to the interior or if the plug N play is only done into the engine bay ?

Thank You.

 

[Rupes]

93 gas is very hard to find around here. Would it be ok to run a 93 tune with 92 gas? Though I would probably stick with 91 tune just to be safe.

Or, conversely, what if you only wanted the 91 tune to be on the safer / more conservative side, but use 93 octane fuel? Would it automatically detect and change to the more aggressive 93 tune?

I saw on the burgertuning website FAQ that it can "auto tune" but unclear if that can be turned off.

 

[Kaz]

Or, conversely, what if you only wanted the 91 tune to be on the safer / more conservative side, but use 93 octane fuel? Would it automatically detect and change to the more aggressive 93 tune?

I saw on the burgertuning website FAQ that it can "auto tune" but unclear if that can be turned off.

it won't detect and change the tune by itself you choose what you would like to run, and then the stock ecu is wideband and has built in parameters to protect itself and adjust for intake temps, heat soak, fuel, etc. (to a degree). If you choose the 91 tune but run the 93 fuel the JB4 won't automatically change the map, it will be the map you choose. Just choose the map based on your fuel and your'e done