USA/Canada Delivery Thread

[benjh1028]

I have found an Ariel that I am bidding on. Wish me luck.

Nice! Always wanted to give one of those a go. Good luck and hoping you get a steal of a buy.

 

[DerTheDer]

Nice! Always wanted to give one of those a go. Good luck and hoping you get a steal of a buy.

Thank you! Im hoping that since winter is coming up that I do get a good deal.

 

[trackday14]

My understanding is that you could request minor changes, that would have included suspension, caliper colours, tire choice. but not something significant like body colour. And I don’t believe that and FE v1 car will be allowed one of the new colours.

My understanding is that you could request minor changes, that would have included suspension, caliper colours, tire choice. but not something significant like body colour. And I don’t believe that and FE v1 car will be allowed one of the new colours.

You are absolutely correct…I was unclear in my post - I meant with respect to color.

 

[981KMAN]

.......Seeing a car with amber headlights at a factory tour is a good indicator but not 100%. N/A is not the only place on earth that uses those but we are the largest user by a huge margin. Unfortunately I have seen them in parts of Asia. Whether or not they were imported that way I can’t say. A more seasoned traveler to those parts could chime in.

I'm think I'm in alignment here...... yet request confirmation. The US Emira's may NOT have visibly Amber Side Markers (internal to the headlights). I believe that the regulations state that the Turn Signal Marker be Amber in Color when Activated, not when off. Thus you can have a clear Turn Signal Marker that lights up Amber when activated - just like the videos of the Left Hand Drive Emiras that I have viewed.

So looking at the Emiras going down a Factory Line may show nothing regarding the Turn Signal Side Marker, as they may be clear when off.

Any correction to this thought process would be welcome.

 

[KAR120C]

I'm think I'm in alignment here...... yet request confirmation. The US Emira's may NOT have visibly Amber Side Markers (internal to the headlights). I believe that the regulations state that the Turn Signal Marker be Amber in Color when Activated, not when off. Thus you can have a clear Turn Signal Marker that lights up Amber when activated - just like the videos of the Left Hand Drive Emiras that I have viewed.

So looking at the Emiras going down a Factory Line may show nothing regarding the Turn Signal Side Marker, as they may be clear when off.

Any correction to this thought process would be welcome.

You are correct for the light emitting markers. But the US requires reflectors that must reflect in amber, so they are going to be pretty visible as an amber strip in the headlight module or a hideous reflector probably glued to the wheel arch.

 

[kitkat]

We’ve seen the amber side marker that is part of the headlight.

 

[KAR120C]

We’ve seen the amber side marker that is part of the headlight.

I hope that also functions as the reflector so we don’t get the stick-on strips the Elise and Evora had.

 

[MIGZ]

We’ve seen the amber side marker that is part of the headlight.

Ill be looking to get head lights without the orange - possibly Dubai

 

[Nova]

I would have preferred stick on strips that we could remove afterwards.

 

[kitkat]

I would have preferred stick on strips that we could remove afterwards.

Same. Opening up headlights these days is way more difficult than it used to be back when they used butyl to seal them.

 

[EZcheezy]

well thats super disappointing. I was fully expecting to remove them but now its going to be way harder

 

[benjh1028]

We’ve seen the amber side marker that is part of the headlight.

If they’ll just paint the calipers yellow or silver on that one I’m open to take delivery.

 

[Carbuilder]

I was at a British car show yesterday (the largest in North America) near Burlington, Ontario. Lotus had an Emira there and Tony from Lotus Oakville was there. Though I don't think anything actually said that, it was all "Peninsula". Anyways, I talked with him a bit telling him I had a deposit with him for a couple years and then cancelled. He said I could get my spot back with a deposit now. I told him I was tired of waiting for a car that is never going to arrive. He said the 6cyl and 4cyl cars are arriving at the same time before the end of the year. I told him, more or less politely, that I didn't believe anything from Lotus or dealers about the Emira any more.

I asked him how a company that has been around as long as Lotus could mess up paperwork that delays selling their cars. He said there was more to the story than that, and said it was about them basing the car on the Evora (so it wouldn't need all the paperwork of a new vehicle) but then they made the mistake of saying somewhere it was a new vehicle so all the previous paperwork was not valid; something along those lines anyways. So again I asked how a company that has been around as long as they have could mess that up. He sort of mumbled things at that point and I had pretty much lost interest.

Afterward my wife said "I wouldn't deal with that guy, he seems so low key like he really doesn't care if you buy a car or not". I said that to be fair he is probably so worn down by having to explain to people what is going on when Lotus doesn't even tell their dealers.

 

[Nova]

Yea, I wouldn't really care if they just called the Emira the Evora NYO in the US.

 

[New to Lotus]

Funny over in the UK it's a complete new car in USA it's an evora so they got caught out says it all.

 

[Porter]

Funny over in the UK it's a complete new car in USA it's an evora so they got caught out says it all.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the story that Carbuilder was given. The dealer doesn't have unique/special access, and we're all at the end of a very long game of Tin Can Telephone.

 

[kitkat]

I wouldn't put too much stock in the story that Carbuilder was given. The dealer doesn't have unique/special access, and we're all at the end of a very long game of Tin Can Telephone.

The game of telephone is very real here -- from an engineer to an exec to a head of some regional operations to a dealer to a future customer to us -- leaves for plenty of misinformation -- especially when every single one of those people has a different interest in mind.

 

[Hell4Leather]

The game of telephone is very real here -- from an engineer to an exec to a head of some regional operations to a dealer to a future customer to us -- leaves for plenty of misinformation -- especially when every single one of those people has a different interest in mind.

Yup. While it is the engine from the Evora the car is new. It’s a new year, new regulations, and just because you use an engine type from before means squat when it’s in a new car.

 

[Porter]

The game of telephone is very real here -- from an engineer to an exec to a head of some regional operations to a dealer to a future customer to us -- leaves for plenty of misinformation -- especially when every single one of those people has a different interest in mind.

Don't forget the marketing exec and the PR person and legal. The first two want to spin creative narratives while leaning heavily on ignorance (their own and the customers') and the third wants to limit saying anything at all.

 

[EspritGuy]

Don't forget the marketing exec and the PR person and legal. The first two want to spin creative narratives while leaning heavily on ignorance (their own and the customers') and the third wants to limit saying anything at all.

Careful..... public and published statements by Marketing and PR have legal implications (ie accountability) which is the reason for Legal constraints.
Whatever happened to clear and constant customer communications?