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#ForTheDisaster*
I’m starting to think the folks who pulled their deposits and dropped out were the smart ones. I’ve been locked in since April and now I’ll be lucky if my car arrives in time for summer 2023, 2 full years since my initial deposit. WTF are all the people in the factory DOING all day? Another week passes and the number of delivered cars can be counted on one hand. Meanwhile the stock market is melting down and $100k toys are sure not seeming like the great idea they were last year. Rant over.
 

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I’m starting to think the folks who pulled their deposits and dropped out were the smart ones. I’ve been locked in since April and now I’ll be lucky if my car arrives in time for summer 2023, 2 full years since my initial deposit. WTF are all the people in the factory DOING all day? Another week passes and the number of delivered cars can be counted on one hand. Meanwhile the stock market is melting down and $100k toys are sure not seeming like the great idea they were last year. Rant over.
Lotus' last two new vehicle launches unfortunately were during economic hard times. 2009 for Evora and now Eletre and Emira during one of the worst manufacturing supply chain issues and the first war in Europe since WW2. Tough job. It has been a slow moving process that is for sure, I'm not sure how much they could have avoided. Emira was being developed pre-pandemic and now it is launching post-pandemic. A different world 2/3 years later.
 

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We have a railroad strike happening very soon in the US... that'll really make the supply chain a mess here. Prices of nearly everything will be going up again.
 

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I’m starting to think the folks who pulled their deposits and dropped out were the smart ones. I’ve been locked in since April and now I’ll be lucky if my car arrives in time for summer 2023, 2 full years since my initial deposit. WTF are all the people in the factory DOING all day? Another week passes and the number of delivered cars can be counted on one hand. Meanwhile the stock market is melting down and $100k toys are sure not seeming like the great idea they were last year. Rant over.

Factory workers cannot be blamed IMO. I just pulled my Emira deposit and decided to stick with my 981 GT4 until Lotus comes out with a more "hardcore" Emira, which admittedly could be never or at least many years down the line.

My reasons:
1) Despite putting my deposit down at my dealer on July 1, 2021 (before it was even revealed), my California dealer said that it was not early enough for a FE. Promised me the first base car at MSRP.

2) Having the FE is actually not important to me at all, so initially I was okay with this, thinking the base car would arrive in early 2023 per the dealer's promise. Now I am skeptical of getting a base car in 2023 at all. Looking at over 2 years from reveal to getting a car, even though I must have been relatively early amongst all the deposits in the world. Not Lotus's fault per se, but it is what it is. Combination of Lotus delay and dealer skipping me.

3) Selling GT4 and buying Emira is probably a net $20k transaction by the time sales tax, etc. are paid. Not looking for an every day car, so seems like a lateral move at best in that sense. Emira does have better chassis fundamentals, gear ratios, and of course, looks.

4) The daily livability of the Evora is not important to me and prefer Porsche engines to the Emira V6. So to compensate for that, would like to see an Emira with more focused seats, suspension, etc. which I think will come with time.

I feel bad for Lotus, they had so much momentum after the Emira launch. But I think once cars land, a lot will be forgiven, they just have to keep customers happy with the after-sales support.

It's not like other marques like Porsche have been totally unaffected by the supply chain, but there are a lot of used Porsches available for those that cannot wait, but that is not true of the Emira.
 
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Factory workers cannot be blamed IMO. I just pulled my Emira deposit and decided to stick with my 981 GT4 until Lotus comes out with a more "hardcore" Emira, which admittedly could be never or at least many years down the line.

My reasons:
1) Despite putting my deposit down at my dealer on July 1, 2021 (before it was even revealed), my California dealer said that it was not early enough for a FE. Promised me the first base car at MSRP.

2) Having the FE is actually not important to me at all, so initially I was okay with this, thinking the base car would arrive in early 2023 per the dealer's promise. Now I am skeptical of getting a base car in 2023 at all. Looking at over 2 years from reveal to getting a car, even though I must have been relatively early amongst all the deposits in the world. Not Lotus's fault per se, but it is what it is. Combination of Lotus delay and dealer skipping me.

3) Selling GT4 and buying Emira is probably a net $20k transaction by the time sales tax, etc. are paid. Not looking for an every day car, so seems like a lateral move at best in that sense. Emira does have better chassis fundamentals, gear ratios, and of course, looks.

4) The daily livability of the Evora is not important to me and prefer Porsche engines to the Emira V6. So to compensate for that, would like to see an Emira with more focused seats, suspension, etc. which I think will come with time.

I feel bad for Lotus, they had so much momentum after the Emira launch. But I think once cars land, a lot will be forgiven, they just have to keep customers happy with the after-sales support.

It's not like other marques like Porsche have been totally unaffected by the supply chain, but there are a lot of used Porsches available for those that cannot wait, but that is not true of the Emira.
The dealer situation over here is pretty bad. It is one of the biggest down sides to Lotus, especially in N/A.
 
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To clarify, of course I don’t blame the factory workers. I blame the management for not proactively solving bottlenecks that have been obvious for over a year. If you’re continuously getting blindsided, maybe you’re not keeping your head up enough and planning.
 

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I’m thinking of moving to Belgium 🇧🇪 where it looks like every other sports car will be an Emira.
I still have no idea why Belgium gets top priority with deliveries. It makes zero sense to me.

It would be like the first initial deliveries of the upcoming new 2024 Ford Mustang going to EGYPT, and not America, where the car freaking CAME from.

Boggles the mind. IMO, UK deliveries should be FIRST, America SECOND.

Right now, seems like Lotus is going to deliver to Belgium, Russia, Antarctica, Zimbabwe, Chile, Brazil, etc, and the two biggest markets for them on the entire planet gets bottom of the barrel.

Waiting for parts to arrive from China.
I think given the state of the world, China should be the last place on earth to source parts.

China will continue to implement lockdowns for months at a time because they don't have a domestic vaccine powerful enough to deal with COVID, and will maintain their short-sighted "Zero Covid" policy until the end of time.
 
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To clarify, of course I don’t blame the factory workers. I blame the management for not proactively solving bottlenecks that have been obvious for over a year. If you’re continuously getting blindsided, maybe you’re not keeping your head up enough and planning.
Lotus relies on countless suppliers as do other manufacturers. Porsche are up to 2 years for deliveries, Lexus(LC 500) up to 1 year. Lotus hasn't control over bottlenecks in other manufacturing and switching suppliers is not that simple or, a solution during these times. JIT system was wonderful, but, I never thought we would experience what is taking place currently.
 

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I still have no idea why Belgium gets top priority with deliveries. It makes zero sense to me.

It would be like the first initial deliveries of the upcoming new 2024 Ford Mustang going to EGYPT, and not America, where the car freaking CAME from.

Boggles the mind. IMO, UK deliveries should be FIRST, America SECOND.

Right now, seems like Lotus is going to deliver to Belgium, Russia, Antarctica, Zimbabwe, Chile, Brazil, etc, and the two biggest markets for them on the entire planet gets bottom of the barrel.


I think given the state of the world, China should be the last place on earth to source parts.

China will continue to implement lockdowns for months at a time because they don't have a domestic vaccine powerful enough to deal with COVID, and will maintain their short-sighted "Zero Covid" policy until the end of time.
Hey. Language of love, great French fries, superb chocolate, Waterloo, and above all..the one and only Tintin. Makes total sense to me they get dibs on first cars.
 

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