Lotus Emira V6 ECU Tune - Bench Flash

[David s]

Thanks for the FUD. Literally none of what you just said will happen.

Serious? You haven`t even seen me give you a FUD yet. What I was trying to say before you got your di@k in a knot was that most people are not comfortable with sending their ecu to anyone by mail to have it "tampered" with. So I was saying that`s why most seem to be going with the piggy "solution". It`s not perfect, but it is easily reversible, and you can still use your car while you wait for fedex to deliver it back to you all fixed up. So if you want to compete with such a product, you may have to look at what other options you have to remove this road block.
I note that you are a supporting member. You don`t sound like one. Here down under, most Lotus owners watch what people like myself are doing...and then follow...It`s a big market down here..we`ve been at it for a lot longer than what the US crowd have been...just saying.

 

[VF Tuner]

Serious? You haven`t even seen give you a FUD yet. What I was trying to say before you got your di@k in a knot was that most people are not comfortable with sending their ecu to anyone by mail to have it "tampered" with. So I was saying that`s why most seem to be going with the piggy "solution". It`s not perfect, but it is easily reversible, and you can still use your car while you wait for fedex to deliver it back to you all fixed up. So if you want to compete with such a product, you may have to look at what other options you have to remove this road block.
I note that you are a supporting member. You don`t sound like one. Here down under, most Lotus owners watch what people like myself are doing...and then follow...It`s a big market down here..we`ve been at it for a lot longer than what the US crowd have been...just saying.

Read your own message. You have no experience at all with this upcoming product and just spreading fear about failures, limp modes, problems, etc etc.

You’re very clearly not interested so please go away. We get it, you love your JB4.

But you have no experience with this at all and you you talk about limp modes and problems and such.

 

[David s]

Read your own message. You have no experience at all with this upcoming product and just spreading fear about failures, limp modes, problems, etc etc.

You’re very clearly not interested so please go away. We get it, you love your JB4.

But you have no experience with this at all and you you talk about limp modes and problems and such.

Hmm... better read your own posts. I never said I "love" my JB4. I just gave you the reason why they got lots of units out. Your right. I think the way you respond to a bit of nudging give me a clue how you would deal with someone that had a problem with your product. I won`t slam the door on the way out. Good luck. I think you are going to need it.

 

[VF Tuner]

Hmm... better read your own posts. I never said I "love" my JB4. I just gave you the reason why they got lots of units out. Your right. I think the way you respond to a bit of nudging give me a clue how you would deal with someone that had a problem with your product. I won`t slam the door on the way out. Good luck. I think you are going to need it.

You come in here and spread shit and blame me for the response you get to your own shit throwing.
Maybe do a little research before you say such things. Look at what we have done for the evora in such SHORT time since the release of our product.
1. Highest horsepower tuned Evoras on stock ECU / stock system ever
2. Smallest pulleys /highest boost on this supercharger... EVER
3. E30, E50, Tuning and Ethanol tuning
4. "brick wall rev limit" no longer existing
5. Fully compatible Plug and play CAN Flex Fuel system releasing in November.
6. Fast flashing of the ECU (15 seconds)
7. Bluetooth Logging via your phone
8. First company to release a upgraded supercharger lid with documented gains.
and the list goes on.

And we released our first Evora product this year....
All of this will be coming to the Evora if we see the same level of actual customer interest.

 

[VF Tuner]

A few of the things for the evora we have done

1. bad tune vs our basic OTS map

100% bone stock car base 91 octane map

Phone app with datalogging:

Full tuning suite

Full tutorial + car on dyno




and there is much more.

 

[David s]

You come in here and spread shit and blame me for the response you get to your own shit throwing.
Maybe do a little research before you say such things. Look at what we have done for the evora in such SHORT time since the release of our product.
1. Highest horsepower tuned Evoras on stock ECU / stock system ever
2. Smallest pulleys /highest boost on this supercharger... EVER
3. E30, E50, Tuning and Ethanol tuning
4. "brick wall rev limit" no longer existing
5. Fully compatible Plug and play CAN Flex Fuel system releasing in November.
6. Fast flashing of the ECU (15 seconds)
7. Bluetooth Logging via your phone
8. First company to release a upgraded supercharger lid with documented gains.
and the list goes on.

And we released our first Evora product this year....
All of this will be coming to the Evora if we see the same level of actual customer interest.

Like I said. I wish you well.

 

[jamesbxxx]

What is your order number?

#18487

 

[hellasf1]

JUBU can say what they want, but it has been proven over, and over, and over again that the 2GRFE engine can handle WAY MORE power on stock engine than 460HP.

this has been proven years ago on MR2s.
We proved this on our own Evora running 7400 RPM on the track all summer with a high boost pulley, making over 580HP on race gas.

Many things JUBU says or posts are shown to be wrong if you look at what these engines do OUTSIDE of the lotus community.

I think it’s TQ they say is the issue. Can you share TQ gains for each set up as you did on the first post?

 

[hellasf1]

Supporting and following to see how this goes! This seems awesome and lots of power and hope it goes well! I’m on the JUBU 460 and I would be potentially interested in this, as I been planning on the 530 JUBU.

I would like to see remote tuning sessions at some point to fix or correct potential issue if it comes up. Would be nice “security measure” so we don’t have to send ECU back for analysis or adjustments. Some people have had great luck with JB4, JUBU and others needed some adjustments and some unfortunately not so good outcomes so that is my only concern as we have seen the variables from tuning no matter the vendor. Hope you can do this at some point I know it’s not easy ask.

Lastly…..Admins let’s calm down on the JUBU stuff it’s getting out of hand, JB4 mentioned here multiple times yet that wasn’t alarmed or flagged. I read each post and people can voice their concerns and see how it compares to others. I a JUBU supporter, love what I see here but I see a very distinct step ins on multiple threads when JUBU gets brought up. My recommendation is to keep personally feeling out of decisions.

@VF Tuner looking forward to your success especially being in the US!

 

[Porter]

Once they see an emira on dyno, not exploding, making more power than jb4 w higher redline, they will start buying.

I agree with this. People are hesitant because they haven't seen it fully implemented on a USDM Emira and running/operating reliably. Until people see that, they make the assumption that the product does not yet exist.

I'm very excited to see this come to fruition and can't wait to see results.

 

[Porter]

Lastly…..Admins let’s calm down on the JUBU stuff it’s getting out of hand, JB4 mentioned here multiple times yet that wasn’t alarmed or flagged. I read each post and people can voice their concerns and see how it compares to others. I a JUBU supporter, love what I see here but I see a very distinct step ins on multiple threads when JUBU gets brought up. My recommendation is to keep personally feeling out of decisions.

Administrative action is taken when people drive a thread off topic. It has nothing to do with the particular vendor, it has to do with the disruption. And those types of moderation actions will absolutely continue to keep this forum orderly and conflict at a minimum wherever possible. Please help us with that goal wherever you can.

 

[VF Tuner]

#18487

Ahh! I apologize we shipped you a kit...before getting your ECU. (we had nearly 70 orders to ship yesterday...not emiras though. It accidentally got included)

We are working on flash support so you will need that kit (to flash new tunes). But we will need the ECU too. I will email you.

+/- about 2 weeks or so we'll know how our flash solution will work for each person.

if you would like to order, please do so here:

VF Tuner Lotus Emira V6 Tuning Package

Lotus EmiraV6 ECU service, Tuning and Flash Deviceincludes: 1. ECU unlocking services2. The Tune-able ECU will be unlocked and prepped for tuning. 3. Tune of your choice will be installed on your ECU and returned to you Rev limit: 7200 or 7400 (user choice)91 or 93 octane (user choice)Stock...

vftuner.com

only people who order before full release will get flash kits included in the price.

 

[allenyao09]

I agree with this. People are hesitant because they haven't seen it fully implemented on a USDM Emira and running/operating reliably. Until people see that, they make the assumption that the product does not yet exist.

I'm very excited to see this come to fruition and can't wait to see results.

It seems like it's the only option to unlock the rev limit other than a replacement ECU. A lot of people, me included are very interest in this implementation.

Same here. I would wait until it has been proven the bench flash works well on the Emira before I jump in. Many risks are associated with sending out the ECU like lost/damaged during shipping and difficulty of troubleshooting.

 

[VF Tuner]

You guys will be seeing it in action within a few weeks.
Regarding ECU shipping, so long as you use Fedex/UPS/DHL (if overseas) there is a 99% chance no issue whatsoever.
We have hundreds of toyota ECUs shipped to us every year for unlocking and the only time an ECU was EVER lost was when someone used regular USPS mail.



If you guys are really that concerned, you can order > provide your VIN > we will order an ECU for you > do everything > ship you your tuned ECU. We can get ECUs from our lotus dealer no problem, it just increases cost.

 

[NJemira85]

You guys will be seeing it in action within a few weeks.
Regarding ECU shipping, so long as you use Fedex/UPS/DHL (if overseas) there is a 99% chance no issue whatsoever.
We have hundreds of toyota ECUs shipped to us every year for unlocking and the only time an ECU was EVER lost was when someone used regular USPS mail.



If you guys are really that concerned, you can order > provide your VIN > we will order an ECU for you > do everything > ship you your tuned ECU. We can get ECUs from our lotus dealer no problem, it just increases cost.

I’m not 100% sure this will work. Just fyi. Lotus dealer told me, even with vin provided during order process, it still needs to get “programmed onto” car physically upon delivery. They may be wrong though. They haven’t done a spare emira ecu before. I’m a f*cking pioneer…

Just wanted to add what lotus service advisor told me.

For others it would be awesome if direct drop ship to vf were possible without in person dealer programming hassle/expense/time.

Also @VF Tuner way to go shipping 70 units. $$$

 

[David s]

Supporting and following to see how this goes! This seems awesome and lots of power and hope it goes well! I’m on the JUBU 460 and I would be potentially interested in this, as I been planning on the 530 JUBU.

I would like to see remote tuning sessions at some point to fix or correct potential issue if it comes up. Would be nice “security measure” so we don’t have to send ECU back for analysis or adjustments. Some people have had great luck with JB4, JUBU and others needed some adjustments and some unfortunately not so good outcomes so that is my only concern as we have seen the variables from tuning no matter the vendor. Hope you can do this at some point I know it’s not easy ask.

Lastly…..Admins let’s calm down on the JUBU stuff it’s getting out of hand, JB4 mentioned here multiple times yet that wasn’t alarmed or flagged. I read each post and people can voice their concerns and see how it compares to others. I a JUBU supporter, love what I see here but I see a very distinct step ins on multiple threads when JUBU gets brought up. My recommendation is to keep personally feeling out of decisions.

@VF Tuner looking forward to your success especially being in the US!

Your post is pretty well what I said. But VF cracked a big one and took his bat and ball away. The sending of one’s ecu is a major block. Especially if something goes wrong and you have to send it back again. But he didn’t like that fact being pointed out.

 

[Blackthought_]

@VF Tuner

Glad to hear the progress made. Sounds interesting. One thing I’m trying to understand, from what I’ve read, it sounds like the Emira ECU isn’t exactly the same as the Evora GT. True or not?

If the tune hasn’t actually been tested on an Emira yet (as far as I can tell, it has not been), how do you confirm it’s truly safe and optimized, rather than having the first buyer’s ECU basically be the test case?

 

[VF Tuner]

Your post is pretty well what I said. But VF cracked a big one and took his bat and ball away. The sending of one’s ecu is a major block. Especially if something goes wrong and you have to send it back again. But he didn’t like that fact being pointed out.

If you read our posts you'll see we will be offering a solution to flash right from home. Please do not "guess" or post your opinion of what our product is going to be and what we will provide. That thing you pointed out is NOT a "fact" at all.

 

[VF Tuner]

@VF Tuner

Glad to hear the progress made. Sounds interesting. One thing I’m trying to understand, from what I’ve read, it sounds like the Emira ECU isn’t exactly the same as the Evora GT. True or not?

If the tune hasn’t actually been tested on an Emira yet (as far as I can tell, it has not been), how do you confirm it’s truly safe and optimized, rather than having the first buyer’s ECU basically be the test case?

The ECU itself is not the same as the Evora GT. It uses a newer chip, and newer flash methods.
But the CALIBRATION DATA (maps, tables, logic, code) is almost exactly the same.
The reason I am confident it will be safe and optimized because the CALIBRATION (the brain.. the code...) IS the same as the Evora GT, and the powertrain is the same.


let me see if I can explain this in a simpler way.

The 2GR FE engine in the EMIRA is the exact same engine as the CAMRY. Therefore, modifications that is safe for the EMIRA is also safe for the CAMRY.

The EMIRA being the "new ECU" and the CAMRY being the "old" ECU. it's the same engine in a different body.

Sorry I don't know how else to explain it. The "tune" in the Emira is the same as the Evora GT it is just using an updated chip.


I am also Guaranteeing it, so if it doesn't work costs involved come directly out of my pocket. This is something I usually NEVER do, but I'm *extremely* confident.

 

[NJemira85]

Your post is pretty well what I said. But VF cracked a big one and took his bat and ball away. The sending of one’s ecu is a major block. Especially if something goes wrong and you have to send it back again. But he didn’t like that fact being pointed out.

While the ecu does need to be sent in (once) for unlock, it wouldn’t need to be sent in again. Just fyi