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[jp129]

No issues here. I think the cause of your limp mode could be trans temp. If they are the same as automatic Evoras, it’s not uncommon for them to have issues with heat.

Same no issues here and I track in Texas, so the ambient temps were 95F+.

When I come back to the pits, I'll open up the hatch and let the car idle for about 5mins before I shut it down. I've never experienced a limp mode from heat with this practice. Never had cooling issues on track either.

 

[Tomwa]

There are very easy ways to confirm your beliefs. That's all they are right now is your personal suspicions that you are pretending there is data to support.

The ECU did not "learn" your way into 15ph. The IAT and the MAF and the MAP are what they are. If you reduce restriction then you see the immediate change in the MAF. If you don't 'like' or 'trust' the charts provided by GRP who did testing for everyone, then grab another intake and do your own. The blue replacement filter is an easy option. It's possible that the GRP testing proved is that at 3,000 ft above sea level there is not much difference between filters. Or that the dyno he was using has a high level of variance that averages out to minimal differences between options. No one can really say. BUT what no one should be claiming is that there is some "magic" which invalidates his testing and dyno over your own results.

If I cared enough I technically have both GRP and Eventuri and i still have my stock one sitting around, I *could* do this testing, but I don't care. Critically though, I am also not the one claiming that Greg or his methods are wrong.

Even easier for you, would have been to prove that the Map0 (no JB4) to Map 1 or 2 was a meaningful change. Two different days running a dyno will result in different readings. It just is the facts.

It's nice to believe that you can regularly prove the incremental improvements you are making from a Day 0 dyno. But the fact is the conditions of that Day 0 dyno are never perfectly repeatable. So you could gain/lose 5hp just because it was a bit misty that morning. Just like with track times posted by magazine/reviewers, anyone with sufficient experience knows there are only generalizations. You cannot truly compare 2 lap times from two separate days and 2 separate conditions.

You regularly make claims that cannot be validated by anyone else, and speak loudly as if they must be true. When people ask you why you don't show the sort of 'rigor' your posts indicate that you care about, in order to validate these claims you offer weak excuses like "I know what stock is like I don't need to do a Map 0 run". Do you think its a coincidence so many people asked this simple question? Do you think everyone who did had no rational basis for the logic?

 

[sbproducer]

There are very easy ways to confirm your beliefs. That's all they are right now is your personal suspicions that you are pretending there is data to support.

The ECU did not "learn" your way into 15ph. The IAT and the MAF and the MAP are what they are. If you reduce restriction then you see the immediate change in the MAF. If you don't 'like' or 'trust' the charts provided by GRP who did testing for everyone, then grab another intake and do your own. The blue replacement filter is an easy option. It's possible that the GRP testing proved is that at 3,000 ft above sea level there is not much difference between filters. Or that the dyno he was using has a high level of variance that averages out to minimal differences between options. No one can really say. BUT what no one should be claiming is that there is some "magic" which invalidates his testing and dyno over your own results.

If I cared enough I technically have both GRP and Eventuri and i still have my stock one sitting around, I *could* do this testing, but I don't care. Critically though, I am also not the one claiming that Greg or his methods are wrong.

Even easier for you, would have been to prove that the Map0 (no JB4) to Map 1 or 2 was a meaningful change. Two different days running a dyno will result in different readings. It just is the facts.

It's nice to believe that you can regularly prove the incremental improvements you are making from a Day 0 dyno. But the fact is the conditions of that Day 0 dyno are never perfectly repeatable. So you could gain/lose 5hp just because it was a bit misty that morning. Just like with track times posted by magazine/reviewers, anyone with sufficient experience knows there are only generalizations. You cannot truly compare 2 lap times from two separate days and 2 separate conditions.

You regularly make claims that cannot be validated by anyone else, and speak loudly as if they must be true. When people ask you why you don't show the sort of 'rigor' your posts indicate that you care about, in order to validate these claims you offer weak excuses like "I know what stock is like I don't need to do a Map 0 run". Do you think its a coincidence so many people asked this simple question? Do you think everyone who did had no rational basis for the logic?

I think you are just wrong man and he is right.

Beyond that, he is trying to contribute while even though you say you have all the intakes “you dont care” enough to contribute.

 

[benjh1028]

Customer service from JUBU seems to be outstanding minus the language issues.

I was very interested in them until reading some factually documented cases where this is the exception. I do hope your experience goes well and you share the results. Could be awesome.

 

[Eagle7]

There are very easy ways to confirm your beliefs. That's all they are right now is your personal suspicions that you are pretending there is data to support.

The ECU did not "learn" your way into 15ph. The IAT and the MAF and the MAP are what they are. If you reduce restriction then you see the immediate change in the MAF. If you don't 'like' or 'trust' the charts provided by GRP who did testing for everyone, then grab another intake and do your own. The blue replacement filter is an easy option. It's possible that the GRP testing proved is that at 3,000 ft above sea level there is not much difference between filters. Or that the dyno he was using has a high level of variance that averages out to minimal differences between options. No one can really say. BUT what no one should be claiming is that there is some "magic" which invalidates his testing and dyno over your own results.

If I cared enough I technically have both GRP and Eventuri and i still have my stock one sitting around, I *could* do this testing, but I don't care. Critically though, I am also not the one claiming that Greg or his methods are wrong.

Even easier for you, would have been to prove that the Map0 (no JB4) to Map 1 or 2 was a meaningful change. Two different days running a dyno will result in different readings. It just is the facts.

It's nice to believe that you can regularly prove the incremental improvements you are making from a Day 0 dyno. But the fact is the conditions of that Day 0 dyno are never perfectly repeatable. So you could gain/lose 5hp just because it was a bit misty that morning. Just like with track times posted by magazine/reviewers, anyone with sufficient experience knows there are only generalizations. You cannot truly compare 2 lap times from two separate days and 2 separate conditions.

You regularly make claims that cannot be validated by anyone else, and speak loudly as if they must be true. When people ask you why you don't show the sort of 'rigor' your posts indicate that you care about, in order to validate these claims you offer weak excuses like "I know what stock is like I don't need to do a Map 0 run". Do you think its a coincidence so many people asked this simple question? Do you think everyone who did had no rational basis for the logic?

What's your deal man? I'm posting actual dyno charts and weights, you're just "pretending" you know better. Just because you seem to think YOU know better, doesn't mean you actually do. Either pay to get dyno results yourself and post them up, or give it a rest.

 

[Porter]

What's your deal man? I'm posting actual dyno charts and weights, you're just "pretending" you know better. Just because you seem to think YOU know better, doesn't mean you actually do. Either pay to get dyno results yourself and post them up, or give it a rest.

I don't think he's trying to be combative, he's asking for meaningful scientific rigor rather than reports on feel.

I think he's just frustrated because switching maps on the JB4 takes 30 seconds with the mobile app, and could have produced another really meaningful data point on your car with Map 0, Map 1, and Map 2 compared. People are hungry for additional full range comparisons of the map results on the same car, same day, same dyno.

 

[Tracked Emira]

No issues here. I think the cause of your limp mode could be trans temp. If they are the same as automatic Evoras, it’s not uncommon for them to have issues with heat.

Has any used any secondary transmission coolers that will help?

 

[sbproducer]

I don't think he's trying to be combative, he's asking for meaningful scientific rigor rather than reports on feel.

I think he's just frustrated because switching maps on the JB4 takes 30 seconds with the mobile app, and could have produced another really meaningful data point on your car with Map 0, Map 1, and Map 2 compared. People are hungry for additional full range comparisons of the map results on the same car, same day, same dyno.

Then he should contribute himself... Eagle7 is not being paid to do this... he is spending money... is Tomwa his boss or something? I find this hilarious... I'm not trying to throw shade.. its genuinely funny at Eagle7's expense.

 

[sbproducer]

I was very interested in them until reading some factually documented cases where this is the exception. I do hope your experience goes well and you share the results. Could be awesome.

Guess I'll find out soon enough. And I will share unbiased experience with you guys.

 

[sbproducer]

My bad for hijacking the thread.. its gone off topic..

 

[ADC]

In the original spirit of the thread, I guess every one should probably... lighten up