JUBU and other topics, a combo thread

[Steve24]

Just saying, I’m seeing some pretty jingoistic posts in this thread.

Hard to believe for some, but there are people in other parts of the world beyond your own who also know what they’re doing.

I’ll judge JUBU and anyone else I choose to deal with by my own experiences, thanks.

 

[seriously]

Probably because you didn't know they exist. Reach out to Kevin (owner). They're backlogged for builds right now as far as I know though.

They just expanded to a much larger shop so hopefully some more headroom soon.

Their post recent major project:

On a side note, that car looks like a handful! Driving a massively boosted mid engined car is not for the faint of heart.

 

[SaudiStig]

Good discussion. Here is my take on this from slightly different prospective.
People tend to support their choices and decisions which is normal to see, and I 'm no different. And that's the beauty of the forums. At the end everyone is entitled to make his own decision, the way he feels best.

Being far away from US and Europe, things can get challenging here when it comes to resourcing parts and/or services.
While we have some decent local shops and engine builders etc, for me it is better to get beyond the try and error and get something that has already been seen, tested and fixed multiple times. So, the end resulted parts are less likely to fail when I install it.

When it comes to light mods like intake or exhaust, there are plenty choices with some great vendors here, but when it comes to engine builds, it is not that straight forward. Not taking any side, but from where I stand, JUBU seemed to have the best packages available for high power output builds with some serious track activities to back up their parts.

The Alaska situation surely got me worried, but I'm moving forward with the package JUBU530 hoping they have learned a valuable lesson, and I will make sure to focus on the fuel here when it is time to test. This is also why I was really keen to see responses from unhappy customers here and there in the forums with JUBU, it is beneficial as it gives you some idea what is happening and set some of your expectations, regardless of who is wrong or right.

So far things have been really positive with JUBU in terms of communication, ordering parts and running the car with the JUBU460 package. If things go south, I will share that as well. Modding the Emira was my goal before I even got the car, do I expect to have trouble free journey? I will try my best to minimize that, but it will be a journey with ups and downs. Hopefully more ups than downs  .

 

[NJemira85]

Good discussion. Here is my take on this from slightly different prospective.
People tend to support their choices and decisions which is normal to see, and I 'm no different. And that's the beauty of the forums. At the end everyone is entitled to make his own decision, the way he feels best.

Being far away from US and Europe, things can get challenging here when it comes to resourcing parts and/or services.
While we have some decent local shops and engine builders etc, for me it is better to get beyond the try and error and get something that has already been seen, tested and fixed multiple times. So, the end resulted parts are less likely to fail when I install it.

When it comes to light mods like intake or exhaust, there are plenty choices with some great vendors here, but when it comes to engine builds, it is not that straight forward. Not taking any side, but from where I stand, JUBU seemed to have the best packages available for high power output builds with some serious track activities to back up their parts.

The Alaska situation surely got me worried, but I'm moving forward with the package JUBU530 hoping they have learned a valuable lesson, and I will make sure to focus on the fuel here when it is time to test. This is also why I was really keen to see responses from unhappy customers here and there in the forums with JUBU, it is beneficial as it gives you some idea what is happening and set some of your expectations, regardless of who is wrong or right.

So far things have been really positive with JUBU in terms of communication, ordering parts and running the car with the JUBU460 package. If things go south, I will share that as well. Modding the Emira was my goal before I even got the car, do I expect to have trouble free journey? I will try my best to minimize that, but it will be a journey with ups and downs. Hopefully more ups than downs  .

Good luck to you. Would be awesome to hear of a successful outcome by JUBU. You’d have to think it’s possible…

 

[hellasf1]

Good discussion. Here is my take on this from slightly different prospective.
People tend to support their choices and decisions which is normal to see, and I 'm no different. And that's the beauty of the forums. At the end everyone is entitled to make his own decision, the way he feels best.

Being far away from US and Europe, things can get challenging here when it comes to resourcing parts and/or services.
While we have some decent local shops and engine builders etc, for me it is better to get beyond the try and error and get something that has already been seen, tested and fixed multiple times. So, the end resulted parts are less likely to fail when I install it.

When it comes to light mods like intake or exhaust, there are plenty choices with some great vendors here, but when it comes to engine builds, it is not that straight forward. Not taking any side, but from where I stand, JUBU seemed to have the best packages available for high power output builds with some serious track activities to back up their parts.

The Alaska situation surely got me worried, but I'm moving forward with the package JUBU530 hoping they have learned a valuable lesson, and I will make sure to focus on the fuel here when it is time to test. This is also why I was really keen to see responses from unhappy customers here and there in the forums with JUBU, it is beneficial as it gives you some idea what is happening and set some of your expectations, regardless of who is wrong or right.

So far things have been really positive with JUBU in terms of communication, ordering parts and running the car with the JUBU460 package. If things go south, I will share that as well. Modding the Emira was my goal before I even got the car, do I expect to have trouble free journey? I will try my best to minimize that, but it will be a journey with ups and downs. Hopefully more ups than downs  .

Yea it reminds me of the shit show we had with our first group buy. All the cars didn’t run as advertised, it was during their summer break too, so it was perfect storm.

They corrected the problem and it’s been great for me and some others as well. When I went to the 460 a year later first dyno run, perfect no issues. So I think we are good moving forward but will see. So I think when it’s the first there is always risks of issues. I as well plan on the 530 with weight savings, I’m not going 600 CS. I know the 530 has been out longer and they have more customers in Europe with that over the 600 CS.

Again here is to hoping it’s more ups than downs when it’s time to go to the next stage with JUBU.

 

[hellasf1]

I asked JUBU about the Alaska 600 CS.

“No blown engine. The fuel in Alaska is so bad. About 90 octane (including some diesel - worst quality of fuel I have ever seen)

Normal US 91 is comparable with European 95 octane. We use 91 octane fuel (european) and do the mapping for the engine. We know before that can be a risk to us the Alaska fuel but we
I want to try. No additional costs for the customer - we pay for the repair.
Some spark plugs have detonation marks and at one spark plug a pcs of the ceramic insulator is broken out.
We double checked the engine at JUBU HQ and sent it back to Alaska already.

The customer will use VP or Sunoco fuel in the future. Same fuel as in his Porsche GT3RS.”

 

[hellasf1]

So…I have said it and will say it again. As you read anything on here, be careful of the source as it’s not always factual and over exaggerated. The engine did not blow up and they didn’t need to fully rebuild the entire thing as previously mentioned…

It’s funny how I have seen the JBU forum that not a single person has replicated the numbers advertised by Burger, Yet no one is upset bc they are responsive and the product is dirt cheap for what power it produces. So people will choose when to bitch and trash talk and when to support. Just make sure your not the Donkey doing it

Again just be cautious of things you see from any people on this forum who, you don’t know their credibility. Do your own research buy what you want and judge everyone honestly. Cheers

 

[sbproducer]

Thanks for clearing things up on that @hellasf1 . We definitely want facts. That's not a shot at anyone. Just saying facts.. are facts.

To share an update, I've purchased a couple more things from JUBU. Not all this may be necessary for my setup, it's just peace of mind, and most of it isn't too hard on the wallet. The one piece that I want from JUBU that I'm really on the fence about is the HD Motorsport Driveshaft System. When all is said and done it will run close to $7000 without installation and that is a lot of opportunity cost, especially considering what I've put into this car already. But believe me, I wouldn't be spending all this money if I didn't think the V6 Emira was a great place to start and a car that I plan on keeping for the long run. The end product should be much more in line with what I had envisioned when I bought the car and hopefully safer and more durable. I like to push to envelope and that little bit of peace of mind can go along way.

I'm sticking with the JUBU 440 to 460 plan. I don't plan on upgrading internals. I'm not a track rat and 460 hp plus the excellent torque curve provided by the tune is probably enough for me and the roads. And there is probably much less of a risk for hiccups. Upgrading internals always comes with a bigger risk. I'll admire those who go for it, but for me.. I'm a calculated risk taking safe player, if that makes sense. My first shipment should arrive in roughly two weeks. I've already contacted my installer with a parts list so they can start planning as well. As promised, JUBU is preparing the Super B Andrena battery mounting bracket and it will ship with everything else.

List

JUBU 440 Kit (Already in my hands but I may get this one done separately with dynos, which I will provide for the forum)
Super B Andrena 12V25AH (the mounting bracket is on the way.. apparently its not just a bracket)
Acer Titanium Lug Bolts
Hawk Z Ceramic Pads
GRP Custom Steering Wheel (this one and the buttons will be done later.. shipping from China.. may take a year or two..)
Powerflex Trans Mount Bushings
JUBU Cooling Upgrade 2GR
JUBU Cooling Hose Upgrade Kit
JUBU Pulley Upgrade Kit
JUBU Aluminum Alternator Pulley
JUBU Torque Insulator Upgrade Kit (nervous about these.. definitely not taking the powertrain out but some lifting of the rear clam)
Lotus Baffled Oil Pan
JUBU Aluminum Flaps
JUBU Upgraded Toe Links (safety first)
Aerie Short Shift Adapter (I have the GRP and absolutely love them... truly.. but I want to try them for science)
GRP Radium Catch Can Kit
Milltek Valve Controller V2 (I caved in here realizing I'm probably going with the Valvetronic Exhaust and don't want Lotus recalibration cost)

Timeline

Probably land a review in about Late September.

 

[hellasf1]

Thanks for clearing things up on that @hellasf1 . We definitely want facts. That's not a shot at anyone. Just saying facts.. are facts.

To share an update, I've purchased a couple more things from JUBU. Not all this may be necessary for my setup, it's just peace of mind, and most of it isn't too hard on the wallet. The one piece that I want from JUBU that I'm really on the fence about is the HD Motorsport Driveshaft System. When all is said and done it will run close to $7000 without installation and that is a lot of opportunity cost, especially considering what I've put into this car already. But believe me, I wouldn't be spending all this money if I didn't think the V6 Emira was a great place to start and a car that I plan on keeping for the long run. The end product should be much more in line with what I had envisioned when I bought the car and hopefully safer and more durable. I like to push to envelope and that little bit of peace of mind can go along way.

I'm sticking with the JUBU 440 to 460 plan. I don't plan on upgrading internals. I'm not a track rat and 460 hp plus the excellent torque curve provided by the tune is probably enough for me and the roads. And there is probably much less of a risk for hiccups. Upgrading internals always comes with a bigger risk. I'll admire those who go for it, but for me.. I'm a calculated risk taking safe player, if that makes sense. My first shipment should arrive in roughly two weeks. I've already contacted my installer with a parts list so they can start planning as well. As promised, JUBU is preparing the Super B Andrena battery mounting bracket and it will ship with everything else.

List

JUBU 440 Kit (Already in my hands but I may get this one done separately with dynos, which I will provide for the forum)
Super B Andrena 12V25AH (the mounting bracket is on the way.. apparently its not just a bracket)
Acer Titanium Lug Bolts
Hawk Z Ceramic Pads
GRP Custom Steering Wheel (this one and the buttons will be done later.. shipping from China.. may take a year or two..)
Powerflex Trans Mount Bushings
JUBU Cooling Upgrade 2GR
JUBU Cooling Hose Upgrade Kit
JUBU Pulley Upgrade Kit
JUBU Aluminum Alternator Pulley
JUBU Torque Insulator Upgrade Kit (nervous about these.. definitely not taking the powertrain out but some lifting of the rear clam)
Lotus Baffled Oil Pan
JUBU Aluminum Flaps
JUBU Upgraded Toe Links (safety first)
Aerie Short Shift Adapter (I have the GRP and absolutely love them... truly.. but I want to try them for science)

Timeline

Probably land a review in about Late September.

Keep us posted I’m excited for your feedback on the parts you instal!

I feel the same and have the same idea when I placed my order for the Emira, I knew it was going to be modded.

I really want to do the final drive with the 530 but will see when it’s time. But according to JUBU it’s another level and makes the car feel the way it should with the added power. I don’t mind the longer gears with 7200 but the new 911 GT3 Touring they did that and people have really loved the change from the reviews I’ve seen. Would be nice to test drive the final drive before purchasing.

 

[sbproducer]

Keep us posted I’m excited for your feedback on the parts you instal!

I feel the same and have the same idea when I placed my order for the Emira, I knew it was going to be modded.

I really want to do the final drive with the 530 but will see when it’s time. But according to JUBU it’s another level and makes the car feel the way it should with the added power. I don’t mind the longer gears with 7200 but the new 911 GT3 Touring they did that and people have really loved the change from the reviews I’ve seen. Would be nice to test drive the final drive before purchasing.

I totally agree with the final drive. I think it's a game changer. The gears feel long for me. I don't understand when people say they feel like they need more room up top. I mean, yes, staying longer in the power band is great, but it still feels slightly longer to get there compared to some of the other manuals I've owned. I don't mind the long gearing too much, but I also never plan on doing 175 mph on the freeway unless I'm escaping the apocalypse.

I've done 140mph before on the freeway, when I was in my twenties, in a 2000 Civic Si.. it felt like the other cars were frozen. Would never do that again and certainly don't recommend it. It's straight up Russian roulette with a pistol and an attached shotgun pointed at others.

So, the long gearing seems unnecessary. Maybe with the final drive installed, the 7200 rpm will present itself as more of a necessity. Also, I've only hit the rev limiter once. I can see the rpm band blinking with my peripheral vision and I shift fast.. so it really hasn't been an issue, however, it is jarring, and a soft-limiter is definitely a bonus.

Having said all that, I think the final drive, if it works as intended, would be one of the best sleeper upgrades for the Emira. The problem is there isn't much to find in terms of reviews. Who is gonna be the guinea pig, you or me? In any case, I'll probably go for it sometime next year when all my installs are done and in working order.