VF Tuner for the Lotus Emira

[Rupes]

Just when I thought this forum was getting less interesting...

 

[Eagle7]

First, we specifically states what we were talking about was only the V6.
And we have PMs from at least two different people who have encountered issues.

Again, as I said I am not saying it's a faulty product or even bad design, it's just working with a bare-bone calibration, which I explained in detail before it was deleted.


Anyways, I do not want to discuss it further. Those owners can discuss it.

We will just discuss how the ECU works and the maps, tables, limitations, etc. Then people can form their own conclusions

Are you saying the Emira V6 ECU is the same ECU that was on the Evora? No additional code or programming was added for the Emira?

 

[VF Tuner]

Are you saying the Emira V6 ECU is the same ECU that was on the Evora? No additional code or programming was added for the Emira?

It is not exactly the same, it uses a new chip.
But the calibration is no so different. Updated, but still same bones. I'll get into detail on it soon

 

[sbproducer]

Freedom of speech, freedom of choice, and good ole fashioned competition! Going to my yard to look at the flag proudly!

 

[sbproducer]

Look, from time to time competition gets a little messy, but at the end of the day.. men let bygones be bygones and shake hands and salute the winner. Because there is only one winner. Time to take off the tutu boys..

 

[Emira Fan]

Would have been nice if the Moderator created a new thread with VF Tuner's ECU and knock sensor details vs Deleting. Many members may have found his information instructive.
Can't expect VF Tuner to rewrite that half page post.

 

[VF Tuner]

Would have been nice if the Moderator created a new thread with VF Tuner's ECU and knock sensor details vs Deleting. Many members may have found his information instructive.
Can't expect VF Tuner to rewrite that half page post.

I'll write a more indepth post about everything on the ECU, not just some of it here soon

 

[Kimmax]

soon

Cmon, don’t Lotus us!!

 

[Porter]

Sorry but I guess we will not be allowed to talk about it without risk of post deletion or being banned from the forum. Sorry.

To be abundantly clear since people are being misled about this... the moderators on this forum did not delete your posts.

You posted criticisms of another vendor's product on that vendor's thread in that vendor's private forum here, and they then deleted the posts because they weren't relevant to the purpose of their thread. You also have your own private forum as a supporting vendor, it's in the forums list page.

If another vendor came onto your announcement post about the VF Tuner product and started listing reasons why they didn't think it was good, you would also take some issue. It's reasonable.

Hope that helps!

 

[VF Tuner]

To be abundantly clear since people are being misled about this... the moderators on this forum did not delete your posts.

You posted criticisms of another vendor's product on that vendor's thread in that vendor's private forum here, and they then deleted the posts because they weren't relevant to the purpose of their thread. You also have your own private forum as a supporting vendor, it's in the forums list page.

If another vendor came onto your announcement post about the VF Tuner product and started listing reasons why they didn't think it was good, you would also take some issue. It's reasonable.

Hope that helps!

once again, I didn't criticize the product nor did I ever say I didn't think it wasn't good.
My products were talked about in that thread and I made a reply to it.

I was told it was deleted, so I thought a moderator did it. I did not know Vendors even have post delete ability. There was no intention to mislead anyone.

Anyways I am done talking about this. It seems from some of the responses here, and in there, and the very prejudiced sounding response about people from Spain from a user in this thread... that when someone has a product problem they don't get treated very nicely.

 

[lynchy73]

once again, I didn't criticize the product nor did I ever say I didn't think it wasn't good.
My products were talked about in that thread and I made a reply to it.

I was told it was deleted, so I thought a moderator did it. I did not know Vendors even have post delete ability. There was no intention to mislead anyone.

Anyways I am done talking about this. It seems from some of the responses here, and in there, and the very prejudiced sounding response about people from Spain from a user in this thread... that when someone has a product problem they don't get treated very nicely.

To be honest, nobody is saying there was anything wrong with what you said. The only issue was where it was posted.

Regardless of whether a remapped ECU is better or worse than a piggyback, but the fact still remains that a remapped ECU will almost certainly void warranty claims, whereas a piggyback that has been removed has at least some chance of being undetected. There are valid reasons why someone might choose 1 over the other (within warranty period) and are willing to accept some compromises. Not to mention piggyback is as yet the only option for the V6, other than a standalone ECU, until such time as your ECU flash is available. For I4, piggyback is the only option we have.

Anyways, I’m hoping you come up with an I4 reflash in the future and like others we’re interested in getting more insights into the inner workings of the factory ECU and the mapping. Many thanks for your input and knowledge.

 

[VF Tuner]

To be honest, nobody is saying there was anything wrong with what you said. The only issue was where it was posted.

Regardless of whether a remapped ECU is better or worse than a piggyback, but the fact still remains that a remapped ECU will almost certainly void warranty claims, whereas a piggyback that has been removed has at least some chance of being undetected. There are valid reasons why someone might choose 1 over the other (within warranty period) and are willing to accept some compromises. Not to mention piggyback is as yet the only option for the V6, other than a standalone ECU, until such time as your ECU flash is available. For I4, piggyback is the only option we have.

Anyways, I’m hoping you come up with an I4 reflash in the future and like others we’re interested in getting more insights into the inner workings of the factory ECU and the mapping. Many thanks for your input and knowledge.

Understood.

We are pretty confident we have a solution for the i4 Emira, problem is...we are having a very hard time getting our hands on an ECU. Local dealer doesn't know the part number for it and can't order us one because they need a VIN and such for it.

 

[Eagle7]

To be honest, nobody is saying there was anything wrong with what you said. The only issue was where it was posted.

Regardless of whether a remapped ECU is better or worse than a piggyback, but the fact still remains that a remapped ECU will almost certainly void warranty claims, whereas a piggyback that has been removed has at least some chance of being undetected. There are valid reasons why someone might choose 1 over the other (within warranty period) and are willing to accept some compromises. Not to mention piggyback is as yet the only option for the V6, other than a standalone ECU, until such time as your ECU flash is available. For I4, piggyback is the only option we have.

Anyways, I’m hoping you come up with an I4 reflash in the future and like others we’re interested in getting more insights into the inner workings of the factory ECU and the mapping. Many thanks for your input and knowledge.

My advice is to not over-react. This forum has thousands of members, and it's not unusual that a handful, and I mean typically less than 6 or so, might get upset about something or complain. That's actually pretty mild compared to some forums. It happens. You've stated your position, and I've seen that you've gotten some support too, so just take note of how things work in here. Far more people are interested in what you might have to offer than the very few that complained.

 

[lynchy73]

My advice is to not over-react. This forum has thousands of members, and it's not unusual that a handful, and I mean typically less than 6 or so, might get upset about something or complain. That's actually pretty mild compared to some forums. It happens. You've stated your position, and I've seen that you've gotten some support too, so just take note of how things work in here. Far more people are interested in what you might have to offer than the very few that complained.

I didn’t realise I was reacting. I’m not bothered by anything that anyone said, I’m also not bothered by where anything was said either. I do however understand that if I was a Vendor and another Vendor made remotely negative comments in my thread, that I might not be too happy about it (regardless of the intention or the validity of the comments).

My comments were not meant as a negative comment to @VF Tuner , it was more intended as a suggestion to let it go and don’t take the comments of others as being in any way confrontational or censoring.

 

[675430VME]

Understood.

We are pretty confident we have a solution for the i4 Emira, problem is...we are having a very hard time getting our hands on an ECU. Local dealer doesn't know the part number for it and can't order us one because they need a VIN and such for it.

How certain you feel you are able to crack the i4 ecu? We have shipped our ecu to quite a few countries that are well known for cracking ecu and come back with no luck. If you feel very certain and are able to provide us some forms of guarantee, I could talk to someone who can send you a spare ecu.

 

[VF Tuner]

How certain you feel you are able to crack the i4 ecu? We have shipped our ecu to quite a few countries that are well known for cracking ecu and come back with no luck. If you feel very certain and are able to provide us some forms of guarantee, I could talk to someone who can send you a spare ecu.

I'll PM you.

 

[Lotus F1]

Looking forward to hearing about this I4 solution. I can't imagine it making more than the other piggy solution that's just shy of 500hp.

 

[VF Tuner]

Looking forward to hearing about this I4 solution. I can't imagine it making more than the other piggy solution that's just shy of 500hp.

Real ECU tune will far exceed "just making more boost" like these piggybacks do.

I don't see any of these doing anything to rev limit, response, TCU mapping, etc etc etc.


All these piggybacks do is fake boost. Yea, that makes more power. But what it doesn't do is match ANY of the torque mapping for the transmission, throttle, etc

 

[Lotus F1]

Awesome

 

[Rayjoedef]

To be abundantly clear since people are being misled about this... the moderators on this forum did not delete your posts.

You posted criticisms of another vendor's product on that vendor's thread in that vendor's private forum here, and they then deleted the posts because they weren't relevant to the purpose of their thread. You also have your own private forum as a supporting vendor, it's in the forums list page.

If another vendor came onto your announcement post about the VF Tuner product and started listing reasons why they didn't think it was good, you would also take some issue. It's reasonable.

Hope that helps!

You've made yourself abundantly clear....now leave it alone