Toyota Gazoo Racing GR GT

I am not a fan of the design language. Interior looks low budget AMG GT circa 2019. Just buy a slightly used AMG GT - better looking and way less in price. Same Ethos. - Unfortunately this was a design fail from Toyota and the price point they are going to be asking.
 
I don't like the looks of it as well, but come on, what companies have come out lately is electric cars and weird strategies were things go wrong. This is a new car for petrolheads, it's an hybrid V8 that should partially defeat the turbo lag like the 911 does, it's Toyota engineering...this, like the new cayman/boxster coming back to gasoline, is a sign of redemption
 
I like it but don't love it. Can't explain why. Excited to see the Lexus variant if they do one

I just realized the face is very similar to the older Toyota Camry

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I don't like the looks of it as well, but come on, what companies have come out lately is electric cars and weird strategies were things go wrong. This is a new car for petrolheads, it's an hybrid V8 that should partially defeat the turbo lag like the 911 does, it's Toyota engineering...this, like the new cayman/boxster coming back to gasoline, is a sign of redemption
Yes, at least it's not electric... still, the estimated price for the look does not make much sense to me. I will reserve judgement on performance until someone tests it. But for the price, there is a lot of competition. Maybe it will start lower than the 300K-500K USD they initially discussed. Reminds me of Mustang GTD a bit - not sure who buys that car either.
 
Not really liking the GT but the LFA concept they revealed next to it looks amazing IMO
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Too bad it’s an EV. Should have done another V10 but with a manual
 

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Any idea/speculation as to why the front overhang is so long? Maybe it's an illusion, but why does a front-mid engine car have more overhang than a traditional front engine layout? Think of 350Z front bumper proportions vs this. Plenty of room for radiator and fans in my V8 Vantage that still has a much 'tighter' front end look and better approach angle than this car.
 
Any idea/speculation as to why the front overhang is so long? Maybe it's an illusion, but why does a front-mid engine car have more overhang than a traditional front engine layout? Think of 350Z front bumper proportions vs this. Plenty of room for radiator and fans in my V8 Vantage that still has a much 'tighter' front end look and better approach angle than this car.

To achieve a front mid-engine layout.
 
Oh hell no. Those proportions are just wrong. The back end is OK'ish, but the rest, nasty
 
To achieve a front mid-engine layout.
No, I meant the distance between the front wheel centerline and the front bumper. Bringing an engine further back (front-mid vs front) should allow you to pull the front bumper closer to the wheels.

This comparison is scaled about right (based on the Vantage having a 19" stock wheel and assuming the GR GT is on a 20") and I think it's just a design choice to make the front bumper a bit more proud. Both cars are front-mid V8s. But also, check out how further back the firewall appears to be on the Toyota! Man, that's a long hood.

The more I look at it, It's probably not a huge difference in terms of inches overall, but it sure makes the approach angle look less forgiving on the GR. For the track, no issue of course. But I love that the Emira has such a forgiving front bumper profile!

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Any idea/speculation as to why the front overhang is so long? Maybe it's an illusion, but why does a front-mid engine car have more overhang than a traditional front engine layout? Think of 350Z front bumper proportions vs this. Plenty of room for radiator and fans in my V8 Vantage that still has a much 'tighter' front end look and better approach angle than this car.
Porsche's and Ferraris don't even have the engine in the front and still have a ton of overhang.
 
I don't like the looks of it as well, but come on, what companies have come out lately is electric cars and weird strategies were things go wrong. This is a new car for petrolheads, it's an hybrid V8 that should partially defeat the turbo lag like the 911 does, it's Toyota engineering...this, like the new cayman/boxster coming back to gasoline, is a sign of redemption

I understand that my tastes are not the sportscar market’s taste, but here’s my 2 cents:

This car is nothing unique or special. Multiple very fast cars with hybrid powertrains exist, with not so different power to weight ratios. Nothing unique there.

This car will have a very high performance envelope, and like any other car in its price bracket, has far, far more capability than can even be safely used on the street, and more capability than probably 99% of the future owners can extract from the car due to driving talent and ability. So nothing unique there, either. In the age of electric sedans that can run 9-10 second quarter mile races, straight line speed is no longer the commodity sports cars trade in. There is a level beyond which speed and acceleration is grossly irrelevant.

Although styling is completely subjective, I doubt that anyone will claim this is a coherent or memorable design. The proportions are wonky, and it comes off generic to me. Whether or not you like the styling of an Audi R8, Ferrari 296, Porsche 911, Aston Martin Vantage, etc., those designs are cohesive and distinctive. The lines on this car just don’t make sense. I don’t see where the next generation of this car goes using this design language.

The driving experience may turn out to be uniquely great, but that alone is rarely enough to overcome deficient styling. My prediction is that these cars will be snatched up by speculators and collectors, but ultimately not an especially desired car, not in the way a low-volume halo sports car like the 2005 Ford GT was, for example.
 
Yes, at least it's not electric... still, the estimated price for the look does not make much sense to me. I will reserve judgement on performance until someone tests it. But for the price, there is a lot of competition. Maybe it will start lower than the 300K-500K USD they initially discussed. Reminds me of Mustang GTD a bit - not sure who buys that car either.
I heard in a video it should sell for about 100k. I hope I heard that right now. Gotta find that video again
 

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