I'm out - the cancellations thread

I have to say that I drove the McLaren and I enjoyed it and obviously really like the car, but I still have EMIRA on my mind.

I say that because factually speaking.....I had much more engaging fun experience driving the manual EMIRA on the test drive than this McLaren.

Lotus needs to get more people to test drive the EMIRA and they will buy them. By far the best driving car I have driven is the EMIRA. So visceral, so old school. Test driving the EMIRA felt like what is was like in the 1970's when I was 16-17yrs old and when cars were visceral and you were so attached to the mechanics of the engine and driveline and the analog feeling. You just "feel" everything in the EMIRA, and even this McLaren 570 feels numb and detached as compared to the EMIRA. The EMIRA felt like the old BMW 2002's and the old Alfa's 1970's GTV2000.

That is why the EMIRA is still on my want list and I will get one eventually

This sentiment is the exact reason I never proclaimed "I'M OUT" before dramatically storming off despite the routine aggravation. The Emira sport is simply the best driving car I've ever encountered by a mile and the closest thing I've felt to a motorcycle on 4 wheels, with out of this world looks! Would be forever disappointed having to settle for less...
 
Update from JUBU.

"Hi John,
We have worked intensively on this topic and have come up with a solution for the OEM Emira.
We were able to modify the software with our P&P Syvecs kit, so that 440hp can be realized without hesitation with all OEM parts!
This kit includes a plug & play version and is the base for a later upgrade to 460Kit, as the ECU can continue to be used with new software.

Please note - you can unplug the OEM ECU and not lose any warranty :)"
And my reply.
Hi Jürgen, thanks for this, that sounds perfect.
I have one more question.
If the OEM ECU is removed, and I run the JUBU unit for say 6 months, then need to go for service, or warranty work, and re-install the OEM unit, will it be obvious to the Lotus service centre that it hasn't been in the car, by a lack of saved data log? In other words, will they know from the logs, that it has been inoperative for 6 months?

Kindest regards

Jon
 
Update from JUBU.

"Hi John,
We have worked intensively on this topic and have come up with a solution for the OEM Emira.
We were able to modify the software with our P&P Syvecs kit, so that 440hp can be realized without hesitation with all OEM parts!
This kit includes a plug & play version and is the base for a later upgrade to 460Kit, as the ECU can continue to be used with new software.


Please note - you can unplug the OEM ECU and not lose any warranty :)"
And my reply.
Hi Jürgen, thanks for this, that sounds perfect.
I have one more question.
If the OEM ECU is removed, and I run the JUBU unit for say 6 months, then need to go for service, or warranty work, and re-install the OEM unit, will it be obvious to the Lotus service centre that it hasn't been in the car, by a lack of saved data log? In other words, will they know from the logs, that it has been inoperative for 6 months?

Kindest regards

Jon

Thanks for communicating with them and keeping us updated Jon, it definitely seems like this 440 option is the way to go!
 
Update from JUBU.

"Hi John,
We have worked intensively on this topic and have come up with a solution for the OEM Emira.
We were able to modify the software with our P&P Syvecs kit, so that 440hp can be realized without hesitation with all OEM parts!
This kit includes a plug & play version and is the base for a later upgrade to 460Kit, as the ECU can continue to be used with new software.


Please note - you can unplug the OEM ECU and not lose any warranty :)"
And my reply.
Hi Jürgen, thanks for this, that sounds perfect.
I have one more question.
If the OEM ECU is removed, and I run the JUBU unit for say 6 months, then need to go for service, or warranty work, and re-install the OEM unit, will it be obvious to the Lotus service centre that it hasn't been in the car, by a lack of saved data log? In other words, will they know from the logs, that it has been inoperative for 6 months?

Kindest regards

Jon
It will be interesting to see how the P&P Syvecs is installed and how long it takes. My previous car had a Syvecs and it too many hours due to having things like flex fuel, fuel temp, P3 gauge, etc., where some needed bespoke wiring in.
Hopefully this will be a simple case of finding a suitable location, running 3/4 cables with cable ties abound swapping some OEM style plugs over. Where we need further clarification on is the install because I noticed you get about 200 euros off if you get someone to install. I’m in the UK so an Austria trip for anything other than a built engine isn’t an option. If we use 98/99 fuel all the time it appears there is a preset program for that but it mentions a rolling road test. For me personally this means someone to install and separately having it booked into a rolling road garage where a Syvecs specialist can attend to carry out the run and make any required adjustments. The cost of the Emira 100% I’d want a Syvecs specialist doing this because there are too many tuners who say yes to working on any system in the badis of they all basically do the same thing and I can only imagine my wife’s reaction if I had a non warranty engine failure. I think if it is only a 1 hour install which is optimistic and the rolling road side is 2/3 hours we have to budget for £750+ and no way 200 euros. It would be nice to hear there thoughts on this.
Lastly I forgot to say previously JUBU mentioned around 500nm was the safe point they were stopping at on a non built engine and the reason why the 440 is nearly the same as the 460.
 
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This sentiment is the exact reason I never proclaimed "I'M OUT" before dramatically storming off despite the routine aggravation. The Emira sport is simply the best driving car I've ever encountered by a mile and the closest thing I've felt to a motorcycle on 4 wheels, with out of this world looks! Would be forever disappointed having to settle for less...
I agree. I have a Dodge Viper GTS and driving that feels like a tractor compared to the EMIRA
 
Hello
I’m still looking for my wife v1 cancelation . If any of you want deposit back I’m happy to help . Needs to be yellow or blue .
There's a blue one in orlando, but the owner wants $125k for it.

After Carb's is released "soon" check the sites.
 
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There are two on Facebook lotus groups . One is yellow I forget the other. Both MSRP, just people wanting their deposits back.


msrp on yellow one is 95 which is ok for me but he’s asking new msrp to make money . I asked about the yellow one
 
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Update from JUBU.

"Hi John,
We have worked intensively on this topic and have come up with a solution for the OEM Emira.
We were able to modify the software with our P&P Syvecs kit, so that 440hp can be realized without hesitation with all OEM parts!
This kit includes a plug & play version and is the base for a later upgrade to 460Kit, as the ECU can continue to be used with new software.


Please note - you can unplug the OEM ECU and not lose any warranty :)"
And my reply.
Hi Jürgen, thanks for this, that sounds perfect.
I have one more question.
If the OEM ECU is removed, and I run the JUBU unit for say 6 months, then need to go for service, or warranty work, and re-install the OEM unit, will it be obvious to the Lotus service centre that it hasn't been in the car, by a lack of saved data log? In other words, will they know from the logs, that it has been inoperative for 6 months?

Kindest regards

Jon



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“If the OEM ECU is removed, and I run the JUBU unit for say 6 months, then need to go for service, or warranty work, and re-install the OEM unit, will it be obvious to the Lotus service centre that it hasn't been in the car, by a lack of saved data log? In other words, will they know from the logs, that it has been inoperative for 6 months?”


Interested in that as well. As you said, I would think it would be pretty obvious to tell the ECU was not installed in the car due to the lack of logs.

Maybe dealer will assume something is wrong with the factory ECU 😆
 
This sentiment is the exact reason I never proclaimed "I'M OUT" before dramatically storming off despite the routine aggravation. The Emira sport is simply the best driving car I've ever encountered by a mile and the closest thing I've felt to a motorcycle on 4 wheels, with out of this world looks! Would be forever disappointed having to settle for less...
I have never driven a street bike, just dirt bikes when I was younger. What about the Emira makes it close to a motorcycle on 4 wheels in your opinion? I know your statement could be obvious but in lieu of no CARB approval, let's keep talking!
 
I have never driven a street bike, just dirt bikes when I was younger. What about the Emira makes it close to a motorcycle on 4 wheels in your opinion? I know your statement could be obvious but in lieu of no CARB approval, let's keep talking!

It's the light, unfiltered sensation.... It's responses are quick and responsive to the driver's desires. Every fraction that you actuate the controls, it responds accordingly, with direct feedback between the driver's inputs and vehicle's output. It's a mechanical, analog, sensitive, unassisted feeling.... akin to typing on a keyboard vs. a touch screen.

@Lotus64 Try a McLaren 720 if you get the chance…

If I see any lying around I will! I'm sure it's good.
 

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