I'm out - the cancellations thread

So I finally gave up on Lotus. I called the dealer where I placed my deposit. They said no refunds until they get car and sell it. After selling the car they will refund my deposit. She claimed delivery first quarter 2024. I'm looking for some opinions. Option number one accept what the dealer told me and wait for them to sell the car. Option number two take delivery of the car and sell it on BAT. Since I'm locked in at the lower price I would think there is potential to get some decent cash back for the wait. I can register in Montana to avoid paying sells tax. Any opinions greatly appreciated. Thanks and hope the Emira makes it here. I still love the looks but to long of a wait and to many small issues adding up overseas. Might be back for a final model after issues worked out. Still interested on how all of this shakes out and will follow the journey.
 
So I finally gave up on Lotus. I called the dealer where I placed my deposit. They said no refunds until they get car and sell it. After selling the car they will refund my deposit. She claimed delivery first quarter 2024. I'm looking for some opinions. Option number one accept what the dealer told me and wait for them to sell the car. Option number two take delivery of the car and sell it on BAT. Since I'm locked in at the lower price I would think there is potential to get some decent cash back for the wait. I can register in Montana to avoid paying sells tax. Any opinions greatly appreciated. Thanks and hope the Emira makes it here. I still love the looks but to long of a wait and to many small issues adding up overseas. Might be back for a final model after issues worked out. Still interested on how all of this shakes out and will follow the journey.
Tough call - I guess it would depend on your market - why not just sell it to @tvs_1320 - He's been waiting lol... but in all honesty, you can probably list it on here for sale and someone should pick it up for the F/E V2 price.

Alternatively once you get a VIN can you not list it on Autotrader before you get the car? At least that way you can get a feel for demand on pre-owned market before you put it on BAT?
 
So I finally gave up on Lotus. I called the dealer where I placed my deposit. They said no refunds until they get car and sell it. After selling the car they will refund my deposit. She claimed delivery first quarter 2024. I'm looking for some opinions. Option number one accept what the dealer told me and wait for them to sell the car. Option number two take delivery of the car and sell it on BAT. Since I'm locked in at the lower price I would think there is potential to get some decent cash back for the wait. I can register in Montana to avoid paying sells tax. Any opinions greatly appreciated. Thanks and hope the Emira makes it here. I still love the looks but to long of a wait and to many small issues adding up overseas. Might be back for a final model after issues worked out. Still interested on how all of this shakes out and will follow the journey.

They cannot keep your money for a vehicle that does not exist and you have no intention of purchasing. You could contact your credit card company and probably tell them to charge it back.

PS - You now are no longer allowed to post on any of the pages of this forum because you obviously don't care anything about the car 😉
 
I am really surprised to see no new post here after I4 news 😅
 
I requested a refund and no reply until a few days later, and still no refund. Will deal with this next week and just show up at the dealer and force it through at this point. So dissapointing.
 
So I finally gave up on Lotus. I called the dealer where I placed my deposit. They said no refunds until they get car and sell it. After selling the car they will refund my deposit. She claimed delivery first quarter 2024. I'm looking for some opinions. Option number one accept what the dealer told me and wait for them to sell the car. Option number two take delivery of the car and sell it on BAT. Since I'm locked in at the lower price I would think there is potential to get some decent cash back for the wait. I can register in Montana to avoid paying sells tax. Any opinions greatly appreciated. Thanks and hope the Emira makes it here. I still love the looks but to long of a wait and to many small issues adding up overseas. Might be back for a final model after issues worked out. Still interested on how all of this shakes out and will follow the journey.
Did your CC company charge it back for you? The dealer pays a fee when that happens; screw em.
 
I'm officially out. But upgraded anyway, got myself a Lotus Europa S (2006). My old car, an Elise 111s (Rover 2005) is for sale at the Lotus Dealer in Houten, The Netherlands.
 

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I am trying to get out too. Unfortunately, true to Lotus form, I’m being ghosted by Boardwalk dealership.. They have ignored 2 formal emails requesting a refund. Time to pick up the phone and start hounding them.

On a side note, I’ve been speaking with a local Porsche dealership about a GTS. Their customer service has been stellar which just further sours me with Lotus.
 
I'm officially out. But upgraded anyway, got myself a Lotus Europa S (2006). My old car, an Elise 111s (Rover 2005) is for sale at the Lotus Dealer in Houten, The Netherlands.
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Congratulations with this nice Europa S........
I wish you many nice trips with this beauty.
wkr, Ruud
 
With the latest news from Lotus that FE1 and FE2 deliveries will not occur until they have CARB approval, and that is expected around the end of January 2024.... I am so glad I got out! I was a June 2022 Deposit.

Since getting out, I already have an allocation for a 2024 Porsche 911 Carrera S, configured just the way I want, and an Estimated Delivery date of 03/29/2024. I will most likely take delivery prior to some waiting for their Emira First Edition cars.

I feel a little sorry for those folks that have waited so long, and got sucked into the "Give your Build & Extra Deposit" BS that are further locked-in, just to have to wait even further for their Emiras...... Yet, I could see this coming given the delays after delays after delays.

And to add insult to injury, Lotus says the Emira Delivery Charge is $2350! WTF? Porsche only charges $1650 and has to ship a little further.

So glad I bailed on the Emira!!
 
With the latest news from Lotus that FE1 and FE2 deliveries will not occur until they have CARB approval, and that is expected around the end of January 2024.... I am so glad I got out! I was a June 2022 Deposit.

Since getting out, I already have an allocation for a 2024 Porsche 911 Carrera S, configured just the way I want, and an Estimated Delivery date of 03/29/2024. I will most likely take delivery prior to some waiting for their Emira First Edition cars.

I feel a little sorry for those folks that have waited so long, and got sucked into the "Give your Build & Extra Deposit" BS that are further locked-in, just to have to wait even further for their Emiras...... Yet, I could see this coming given the delays after delays after delays.

And to add insult to injury, Lotus says the Emira Delivery Charge is $2350! WTF? Porsche only charges $1650 and has to ship a little further.

So glad I bailed on the Emira!!
I have to say I agree with you. I bailed in May of this year and had a July '21 deposit. The writing was on the wall. Not just with delays, but the problems owners were experiencing just wasn't something I wanted to sign up for.

So sorry for all of those locked in who have no choice. I hope this batch of US cars will be more trouble free. The Emira is gorgeous, but just like with other things, that only goes so far.
 
I almost feel like I was conned. I locked in my order on August 20, 2023, USA. I feel like lotus kept the delay under wraps until we were locked in.
 
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I almost feel like I was conned. I locked in my order on August 20, 2023, USA. I feel like lotus kept the delay under wraps until we were locked in.
I think you and all who were asked to "Lock-in" their order in August/September were deceived. With no guarantee on a build or delivery date, you were asked to give an additional deposit which forced most folks to buy the car at some unknown date in the future. Yes, unfortunately you were conned! Lotus appears to be a third rate company, says one thing, does another - does not keep their word.
 
I think you and all who were asked to "Lock-in" their order in August/September were deceived. With no guarantee on a build or delivery date, you were asked to give an additional deposit which forced most folks to buy the car at some unknown date in the future. Yes, unfortunately you were conned! Lotus appears to be a third rate company, says one thing, does another - does not keep their word.
And on top of that adding a $2300 destination charge!
 
Let's be clear about one thing - the locked in order is from the dealers not Lotus HQ.

A dealer could refund your "locked in" order at anytime if they want to. Obviously if you sign that it is non-refundable then that is an agreement between you and the dealer. It may come down from Lotus USA that this is the common practise and other brands do the same. Only difference is when you receive an allocation there is a time frame to deliver the car. This is where Lotus HQ gets the blame on not being able to deliver on their word.

3 model years of F/E cars will be rolling out of Hethel - First ones in late 2022 until Early 2025 i4's.... Never seen anything like it. Most manufacturers refresh the cars by then!
 
I think you and all who were asked to "Lock-in" their order in August/September were deceived. With no guarantee on a build or delivery date, you were asked to give an additional deposit which forced most folks to buy the car at some unknown date in the future. Yes, unfortunately you were conned! Lotus appears to be a third rate company, says one thing, does another - does not keep their word.
My dealer called me on August 16th, and told me I had to lock in by the 19th. After the wait to get to this point, to give me three days to finalize, I told em go scratch. He told me he could sell V6s for 10k over MSRP. And now in the UK you can get them for 10 k less!! Now they can’t give i4 slots away.
 

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