Anyone REALLY fancy gambling on quality and delivery date?

[Leonard]

TVR breaks its silence – Griffith now scheduled for 2023 | Evo

Nearly a decade after taking control of TVR and five years since the new Griffith made its debut, Les Edgar and his senior team bring evo up to date with the firm’s progress

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[MCS]

I remember seeing this car years ago. If they find anyone to have confidence in this it will be a miracle.

Even several years ago the design looked dated and it hasn’t aged well.

I’ll pass thanks

 

[Jonhklee]

I remember seeing this car years ago. If they find anyone to have confidence in this it will be a miracle.

Even several years ago the design looked dated and it hasn’t aged well.

I’ll pass thanks

Talk about having blind faith to a sports car with a MUSTANG 5.0 V8….. I would much rather reply on Geely than the Welsh Assembly!!
Why not just buy a Mustang V8!??

 

[Porter]

Honestly though, you have to admire the packaging simplicity of a front engine, rear wheel drive architecture with a long nose. Plenty of room to slot a crate motor in there, easy to plumb the cooling package right in front of the motor, and you can deal with the development of the passenger compartment and storage areas mostly separate from the drivetrain.

This is why you don't see many modern mid-engine kit cars that are really well-sorted in the "bolt it together and drive" sense. The Factory Five 818 is a great example, what a cool idea but WOW what a lot of cooling and packaging challenges. Modern engines make a LOT of heat, and putting them behind a big wind break introduces a dozen different kinds of challenges to keeping them cool under load.

But this thing from TVR? It should be relatively simple to actually engineer and prepare for manufacturing, compared to something like the Emira. They're buying a known-good chassis from a specialist, so that bit is 3/4 of the way sorted. The biggest engineering hurdles to jump over would likely be physical compatibility of the drivetrain parts with the chassis, figuring out the suspension tuning and vehicle dynamics, and the engineering of the body panels to hang on the chassis to give the thing shape, style, and an acceptable aerodynamic profile.

They won't be fighting heat soak problems or shifting gremlins with a 5L Ford V8 crate motor bolted to a Tremec Magnum XL. I mean look at it, the shifter engineering is all taken care of for you, you just have to locate the parts correctly in the car in relation to each other.:

You don't even have to tune it very much, the crate engine program from Ford includes a complete ECM solution and harness with a really well-developed set of base maps. Put the parts togethr and you have a nicely performing naturally aspirated 500hp+6MT drivetrain, with a gearbox that will hold 700 ft/lbs of torque (or repeated abuse at lower torque figures) for years of enthusiastic operation. It's a no-brainer formula.

I hope TVR get their manufacturing challenges figured out, it would be great to see these on the road. With or without a company that could be trusted to exist longer than the vehicle warranty.

 

[Leonard]

Honestly though, you have to admire the packaging simplicity of a front engine, rear wheel drive architecture with a long nose. Plenty of room to slot a crate motor in there, easy to plumb the cooling package right in front of the motor, and you can deal with the development of the passenger compartment and storage areas mostly separate from the drivetrain.

This is why you don't see many modern mid-engine kit cars that are really well-sorted in the "bolt it together and drive" sense. The Factory Five 818 is a great example, what a cool idea but WOW what a lot of cooling and packaging challenges. Modern engines make a LOT of heat, and putting them behind a big wind break introduces a dozen different kinds of challenges to keeping them cool under load.

But this thing from TVR? It should be relatively simple to actually engineer and prepare for manufacturing, compared to something like the Emira. They're buying a known-good chassis from a specialist, so that bit is 3/4 of the way sorted. The biggest engineering hurdles to jump over would likely be physical compatibility of the drivetrain parts with the chassis, figuring out the suspension tuning and vehicle dynamics, and the engineering of the body panels to hang on the chassis to give the thing shape, style, and an acceptable aerodynamic profile.

They won't be fighting heat soak problems or shifting gremlins with a 5L Ford V8 crate motor bolted to a Tremec Magnum XL. I mean look at it, the shifter engineering is all taken care of for you, you just have to locate the parts correctly in the car in relation to each other.:

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You don't even have to tune it very much, the crate engine program from Ford includes a complete ECM solution and harness with a really well-developed set of base maps. Put the parts togethr and you have a nicely performing naturally aspirated 500hp+6MT drivetrain, with a gearbox that will hold 700 ft/lbs of torque (or repeated abuse at lower torque figures) for years of enthusiastic operation. It's a no-brainer formula.

I hope TVR get their manufacturing challenges figured out, it would be great to see these on the road. With or without a company that could be trusted to exist longer than the vehicle warranty.

Amen to that more interesting cars on the road the better. Especially big fat NA ones before they all get killed off.
Saying that I'm looking fwd to seeing more smartly packaged really lightweight sports cars in the future. Glad they managed to keep the weight down on the TVR tho. Impressive.

 

[EspritGuy]

Amen to that more interesting cars on the road the better. Especially big fat NA ones before they all get killed off.
Saying that I'm looking fwd to seeing more smartly packaged really lightweight sports cars in the future. Glad they managed to keep the weight down on the TVR tho. Impressive.

And in other news, you can sweat out the heat and interminable wait with this delicacy.

 

[Leonard]

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