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Plotting an itinerary in the Alps in a few weeks. Anyone here familiar enough with this region to identify any glaring omissions or roads that aren’t worth the trek? I’ve rented a Miata for 2 weeks for about €1200, I’m assuming that’s the most fun I’ll be able to find for the money.


Day 1: 4.5 hours / 285 km
Pick up MX-5 in Munich
Glossglockner

Day 2: 4 hours 179 km
Passo Tre Croci
Passo Gardena
Passo Sella
Passo Nigra

Day 3: 4 hours, 172 km
Jaufen pass
Timmelsjoch

Day 4: 4.5 hours, 229 km
Stelvio pass
San Marco pass
Stay near Splugen

Day 5: 5 hours, 305 km
San Bernardino pass
Gotthard pass
Furka pass
Grimsel pass
Susten pass

Day 6: 6 hours 414km
Klausenpass
Romantic Road to Augsburg

Day 7: 3.5 hours 365km
Stuttgart
Porsche Museum

Day 8
Porsche experience hockenheimring

Day 9: 2.5 hours 247 km
Nurburgring

Day 10: 3 hours / 384 km
Nurburgring to Wurzburg


Day 11 4.5 / 413 km
Romantic Road Wurzberg to Munich

Days 12 - 14
Monaco
Col de Torini
Gorges de Daluis

Days 14 -19
Majorca
So Calobra

Days 20 - 25
Lotus Driving Academy
Goodwood Revival
Wow - what a trip - you haven't missed out a lot to be honest - and I apologise - I said I would send routes and totally forgot.... you have however got most of the good ones in for sure... You might want to have a look at Passo de Stalle on the Austian/Italian border, Passo San Antonio not too far from Golssglockner. Also, the Gavia Pass (near Brecsia) - its quite narrow in places but the scenery is stunning - they also do great broth at the restaurant at the top

If you have never done Stelvio before - do it, but it will be busy and frustrating...
 

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The Stelvio is like 38 'U' turns but has to be done once, it's a tick box exercise.

Most people go to their local Supermarket car park and do 38 U turns to save the bother.

The Offenpas from Stelvio top, via the Umbrail Pass, to Zernaz was considered the best road in Europe by Topgear. It is fast and flowing.
 
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Does anyone have any experience renting cars at the Nurburgring? I see a bunch of companies offer fun stuff by the lap, but not sure which are best to deal with. Sadly no Lotus that I've found so far, but I expected a Porsche bias.
 

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^^^ for real.... if nobody has clicked the link I just shared, it will change your life.

Algorithmic identification of all of the twistiest paved roads in the OSM-mapped world.

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And it does this... for the whole world:

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^^^ for real.... if nobody has clicked the link I just shared, it will change your life.

Algorithmic identification of all of the twistiest paved roads in the OSM-mapped world.

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And it does this... for the whole world:

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This is great. When you first posted I was on mobile so couldn't fully appreciate. I had encountered this site before, but it was before the pandemic and before the update that reduces congestion and conflict zones. Much more useful now.

I've also used dangerousroads.org quite a bit, which is a more manual curation of roads. Click the interactive map for discovery...
 

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Looks great. The "winding roads" algorithm reminded me of Calimoto, a route planning and navigation app aimed at bikers, to find and share great twisty routes. I only heard of it a few months ago and have been using the free version - impressed so far.


 

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Looks great. The "winding roads" algorithm reminded me of Calimoto, a route planning and navigation app aimed at bikers, to find and share great twisty routes. I only heard of it a few months ago and have been using the free version - impressed so far.


I tried Calimoto but it doesn't work so well for US roads (lack of content) or non-Apple devices (lack of usability/polish). Would probably be great for an iPhone user in EU/UK.
 

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Plotting an itinerary in the Alps in a few weeks. Anyone here familiar enough with this region to identify any glaring omissions or roads that aren’t worth the trek? I’ve rented a Miata for 2 weeks for about €1200, I’m assuming that’s the most fun I’ll be able to find for the money.


Day 1: 4.5 hours / 285 km
Pick up MX-5 in Munich
Glossglockner

Day 2: 4 hours 179 km
Passo Tre Croci
Passo Gardena
Passo Sella
Passo Nigra

Day 3: 4 hours, 172 km
Jaufen pass
Timmelsjoch

Day 4: 4.5 hours, 229 km
Stelvio pass
San Marco pass
Stay near Splugen

Day 5: 5 hours, 305 km
San Bernardino pass
Gotthard pass
Furka pass
Grimsel pass
Susten pass

Day 6: 6 hours 414km
Klausenpass
Romantic Road to Augsburg

Day 7: 3.5 hours 365km
Stuttgart
Porsche Museum

Day 8
Porsche experience hockenheimring

Day 9: 2.5 hours 247 km
Nurburgring

Day 10: 3 hours / 384 km
Nurburgring to Wurzburg


Day 11 4.5 / 413 km
Romantic Road Wurzberg to Munich

Days 12 - 14
Monaco
Col de Torini
Gorges de Daluis

Days 14 -19
Majorca
So Calobra

Days 20 - 25
Lotus Driving Academy
Goodwood Revival

The Red Rock Road (D2202) North of Nice, very good road, part of road trip I did a few years back in my Exige, happy days. Enjoy your adventure
 
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