NEW! Emira Turbo SE (400hp)| 0-100 & 100-200 km/h accelerations🏁| by Automann in 4K

[TomAce]

Very impressive times!

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8,7s for the 100-200kph run! Makes me wanting a software upgrade for my V6 manual...

 

[anshumanoz]

Man..it makes me want the 2025 i4 SE so badly now .

 

[Steve24]

I’ve been saying forever that it’s all about the gearbox.

You want the fun and interaction of a manual box?
Excellent. But it will always be significantly slower in these measurements.

It’s not slower in gear, but when each gearchange takes 0.5-1.0 seconds instead of less than 0.1 seconds, and there are 6 instead of 7 or 8 gears what do you think is going to happen?

In my perfect Emira world there would be a supercharged V6 version with the DCT gearbox.

That would be the best combination of all, IMO.

 

[TomAce]

It's all about the money, it can be done surely:

Komo-Tec Doppelkupplungsgetriebe „IDS“

Komo-Tec Doppelkupplungsgetriebe „IDS“

www.komo-tec.com

 

[MeepMeep]

It's all about the money, it can be done surely:

Komo-Tec Doppelkupplungsgetriebe „IDS“

Komo-Tec Doppelkupplungsgetriebe „IDS“

www.komo-tec.com

That's not streetlegal and Misha pointed out it's maybe not the best....

 

[TomAce]

I’ve been saying forever that it’s all about the gearbox.

You want the fun and interaction of a manual box?
Excellent. But it will always be significantly slower in these measurements.

It’s not slower in gear, but when each gearchange takes 0.5-1.0 seconds instead of less than 0.1 seconds, and there are 6 instead of 7 or 8 gears what do you think is going to happen?

In my perfect Emira world there would be a supercharged V6 version with the DCT gearbox.

That would be the best combination of all, IMO.

I am sorry, but that's not true I'm afraid.

I measured my Emira V6 with 11,2s for the 100-200kph run, see attached graph:

This is 3rd and 4th gear, it's taking me 0,3-0,4s for the shift. I needed 11,2s for the run. The above shown Emira does this in 8,7s! That's a whole 2,5s faster, let alone the shift it's still 2s faster. That is much faster overall, also in gear acceleration. It all comes down to the available torque. And the AMG unit seems to have plenty of it.

 

[Steve24]

You’re ignoring the extra gear.

Ultimately do you want maximum performance or maximum interaction and sound?

It’s funny for me personally.
I came to the Emira from a 355F1 where most of the time I spent on forums was saying how much better and more “correct” the manual gearbox would have been.
Actually, I loved the F1 box on the 355.
Despite what YouTube wankers might say, it’s actually a lot of fun and takes a decent amount of skill to master.
And when you get it right it’s every bit as satisfying as the gated box.

So I came to the Emira thinking that the manual must be better, right?

And yes, I do enjoy the interaction.
Actually, I totally love this car. In my opinion it’s the best sports car money can buy without spending three to four times as much.

But I can’t help but laugh at how now all of a sudden because the acceleration times are better with the lesser engine the paddle-shift is all good…

 

[Adam Brouillard]

The DCT not only improves performance because of reduced shift times, but the greater number of gears allows closer ratios which keeps the engine more centered around its power peak. A car’s current acceleration rate is directly connected to its current power output so even if the I4 and V6 have the same peak power, the DCT allows the engine to stay closer to that power peak as it accelerates. I wrote an article recently that covers all this in more detail.

Horsepower and Torque Explained Simply… By Riding a Bicycle

In this article, we’ll take an in-depth look at power and torque, and we’ll do it… by riding a bicycle.

www.paradigmshiftracing.com

 

[Dean76]

There's a dude who got 3.5-3.6 seconds 0-60 twice in a row using launch control with the turbo 4 -

The rumor is that if you warm up a Chinese i4 with 1/4 tank of gas and a 140 lbs driver you can get down to 3.3-3.4 seconds but I think some of those M139s are nearly 420 hp. I'm pretty sure it's not possible with the N. American 400 hp variant

 

[Emira Fan]

I've just past the break in [1000 miles] on my Turbo car. Finally put the car in Track mode.. car really comes alive once the Turbo is at max boost and you feel it in the seat..Completely understand why the turbo engine is 2.5 seconds quicker. [8,7s for the 100-200kph run!]

It's more than than the extra gears. It the extra torque, higher rev limit and I fully believe the US and Chinese cars have more than 400hp; probably 419hp. Wonder if the UK SEs are the same..

Here is C&Ds official results US version.
The 5-60mph is probably a difficult test, not sure if the car in [Auto mode] will let you hold 5mph in first gear. [Auto] puts the car is 2nd very quickly. And trying to shift with the paddles is less than ideal....IMO

 

[1031ent]

I’ve been saying forever that it’s all about the gearbox.

You want the fun and interaction of a manual box?
Excellent. But it will always be significantly slower in these measurements.

It’s not slower in gear, but when each gearchange takes 0.5-1.0 seconds instead of less than 0.1 seconds, and there are 6 instead of 7 or 8 gears what do you think is going to happen?

In my perfect Emira world there would be a supercharged V6 version with the DCT gearbox.

That would be the best combination of all, IMO.

The i4 would still have 40nm more torque through the majority of the power band, a lower center of gravity, closer to 50/50 weight distribution and weight a little less.

If you want the fastest lap times you still want the i4.

 

[Lotus F1]

More torque, lighter, closer gear ratios, Faster Shifts. That adds up. With a JB4 its a 3.2 0-60mph low 11 second car 1/4

 

[Emira Fan]

The i4 would still have 40nm more torque through the majority of the power band,

Think the torque difference is a bit more ==> ~60nm or 44 ft-lbs. 310 vs 354