I'm out - the cancellations thread

Let’s also not forget all the 2GR-FE issues with vvti and the rubber oil hose.
 
Actually you described it perfectly. It floats and tilts like a barge at high seas. I was behind one in my GTR and it was so unsettled in the corners I thought it was going to rollover. I was laughing hysterically, it was that bad.
Well, I've driven (each for over 100 miles) a McLaren 570S, a Porsche 911 4S, and 2022 Corvette (among many others) and unless you are driving around like someone who wants to be arrested, there is no way the average driver would say the LC wallows like a 1975 Cadillac - not even close. In fact, I'd say the LC was more like my 2001 Corvette in handling.
 
Well, I've driven (each for over 100 miles) a McLaren 570S, a Porsche 911 4S, and 2022 Corvette (among many others) and unless you are driving around like someone who wants to be arrested, there is no way the average driver would say the LC wallows like a 1975 Cadillac - not even close. In fact, I'd say the LC was more like my 2001 Corvette in handling.
Whatever floats you boat;)
 
Whatever floats you boat;)
Nailed it! Everyone has their own wants, needs, and desires. I like to experience a variety of different cars. I don't keep them long, even though that's my hope every time I get a new one 🤣
I've always been afraid the LC 500 would bore me too quickly (which happens to me quite frequently anyway). I also don't like the "old man car" stereotype associated with it as I'm neither old, nor a man. But for some reason, I keep going back to these. They are unique.
I plan to drive one this weekend again just to see if it stays on my list or drops off for good.

**special thanks to Tom for letting us get off track a bit 😊
 
I am strongly considering switching my GT53 for an LC 500. May not wait for the Emira. The most bothersome factor for me, is, that the closest dealer is close to 1000km(>600 miles) of travel.
 
Anyone (in the UK) considered buying a 'used' one before cancelling? There are 26 on Autotrader - some with delivery miles (how did that happen?), and surprisingly, some have been there a few weeks now. Must confess I have thought about it, but the spec I could live with has not yet come up yet (nimbus with black interior, no blackpack, no black wheels) and the biggy is I want the i4. Most are not asking looney price markups and you beat the queue.
 
Anyone (in the UK) considered buying a 'used' one before cancelling? There are 26 on Autotrader - some with delivery miles (how did that happen?), and surprisingly, some have been there a few weeks now. Must confess I have thought about it, but the spec I could live with has not yet come up yet (nimbus with black interior, no blackpack, no black wheels) and the biggy is I want the i4. Most are not asking looney price markups and you beat the queue.
A lot of those cars are either clever flippers (or at least they thought they were clever) and a lot of unwanted cars that people stayed in for while they have made other arrangements due to the ridiculous wait. I would have thought there will be a few more going on Auto Trader before this settles down, this is why the car is not going for massive overs, on top of this most of these cars are the really early cars which will probably need most attention with all the niggles.

Another reason why they are not selling in the short term is most of the people in the market for an Emira are already in and waiting, Im guessing you'll see these 26 cars on AT go up in the near future then dwindle away as the car becomes more sort after back end of the year early 2024 when the public have seen them in the flesh.

I think its clear the Emira will deprecate as normal especially here in the UK but I do think it will do well in the USA.
 
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With 26 cars on Autotrader given that UK deliveries are now at a greater pace I'm not worried. It's not gone up substantially in the last couple of months. I would expect most are selling at the £82-83k mark which isn't too bad.

I've been watching the 2nd hand market closely as was either considering getting a delivery miles car near my spec or actually cancelling my post-price-increase order which is slated as June 23 mfr / July 23 delivery as I didn't want to be at least 5k out of bed with the car if I wanted to move it on soonish.

However, I rang around some dealers and have managed to get a cancelled order unregistered car in my exact spec (save the calliper colour which the dealer will respray for me before delivery) for May delivery at the pre-price increase level.

This means I can run the car for a couple of months and decide whether it's a keeper, and not loose my shirt on it. Remember DVLA will refund part of the first year RFL so even if I accept a bid at £78k one week after delivery I'm not out of pocket.

I've had to put a second deposit down and will cancel my June car later once it's in my hands, but just done checkout (which confirms the price) and expect it to be here in two weeks.
 
Good to hear you've managed to pick up one of the cancelled cars. I heard several dealers had access to these but dealers and Lotus were keeping quiet about it so as not to annoy existing depositors.
 
Don't get mad get even. Get on the phone there's still time to get cars locked in before the end of the month. Birmingham has two and Notts have a yellow one.

Some of the dealers I spoke to said Lotus was making them sell the cancelled cars at post-increase rates but I double double checked on mine and as long as it's done before end of month you're inside the window. My checkout reflected the pre-price rise OTR price.
 
Yes one parked next to me in my building Great looking just not worth $250k View attachment 26192
Love the GT. I’m considering this John Player Special I saw. Been on display forever though. 259 on the odometer. I do love the interior and those gold rims. Will cancel the Emira if I pull the trigger.
 

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Love the GT. I’m considering this John Player Special I saw. Been on display forever though. 259 on the odometer. I do love the interior and those gold rims. Will cancel the Emira if I pull the trigger.
That is one sweet car. Buy it. I know 2 guys in TX that have JPS Evora but not GT.
 
I can't see why an Emira would fetch over list!? Its not THAT spectacular or the best alternative to...?

I have Range Rover Sport on order, coming in August...they sell over list, but would not sell mine as the test-drive was simply FANTASTIC! Not so with Emira.

Life is very simple...something really good people want, not so good let's leave it.
 
Love the GT. I’m considering this John Player Special I saw. Been on display forever though. 259 on the odometer. I do love the interior and those gold rims. Will cancel the Emira if I pull the trigger.
I looked at that one in MA closely too (I’ve got an order in for a DV 6sp Emira and figured that it would be a nice fill-in til my car comes in next year, then I’d trade it/sell it). My reasons for not pulling the trigger on it: 1. even though almost no miles, the warranty is almost gone. 2. compared to the Emira, it’s not even close in the looks/sexiness/design department. 3. the interior build and quality and comfort and modern convenience? Not even close! 4. they want considerably more money for all those deficits than a fully loaded out Emira FE. therefore, I passed on it.
 
I looked at that one in MA closely too (I’ve got an order in for a DV 6sp Emira and figured that it would be a nice fill-in til my car comes in next year, then I’d trade it/sell it). My reasons for not pulling the trigger on it: 1. even though almost no miles, the warranty is almost gone. 2. compared to the Emira, it’s not even close in the looks/sexiness/design department. 3. the interior build and quality and comfort and modern convenience? Not even close! 4. they want considerably more money for all those deficits than a fully loaded out Emira FE. therefore, I passed on it.
I’m the same but I have some concerns about being able to tune the Emira up to the HP and acceleration of the GT even though they are the same powertrain.

Also, what good is new car warranty if the damn thing doesn’t work. I want piece of mind not free shop parts and labor.
 
Anyone see the new Maserati MC20? It’s the best of Lotus: the looks of the Evora, the doors of the Evija, and the reliability of the Emira. View attachment 26189

Yes I have one. BEST BEST car I have ever owned. All Ferraris are gone, GT3 Manual is going. This is a GOOD CAR! Breaths like a Lotus, has tons! of character. Blowing /whistling turbos, super beautiful cabin, all carbon tub. ABSOLUTE BARGAIN for what you get!
 
Yes I have one. BEST BEST car I have ever owned. All Ferraris are gone, GT3 Manual is going. This is a GOOD CAR! Breaths like a Lotus, has tons! of character. Blowing /whistling turbos, super beautiful cabin, all carbon tub. ABSOLUTE BARGAIN for what you get!
Just curious, but have you ever owned an Acura NSX? It is said to be far more reliable than any other exotic car.
 
Just curious, but have you ever owned an Acura NSX? It is said to be far more reliable than any other exotic car.
Funny story - in 1990 I bought a lightly used (9k miles) 1985 Turbo Esprit (red with tan interior. It was amazing looking). This was the very last year of the turbo-carbureted engine combo (next year they went to fuel injection). I was CONSTANTLY fiddling with the car to keep everything working, and it performing properly. But when it was in tune and running strong, it was fantastic. Fast forward to 1993; I got it into my head that I should go to the local Acura dealer, as they had a used 1991 NSX for sale (20k miles on it). I took it for a thorough test drive. By the time I got back to the dealer, I was ready to get in my Turbo Esprit (which I had brought to trade) and drive home. The General Manager of the dealership asked me why didn’t I like the NSX? I told him that I felt that the NSX was undoubtably the better car, but that my Turbo Esprit was the better exotic car. The NSX just didn’t thrill me like the Lotus; it was too clinical and boring and soulless. I wish I had never sold that Turbo! (see pic from a longggg time ago at a local autocross in it)
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Funny story - in 1990 I bought a lightly used (9k miles) 1985 Turbo Esprit (red with tan interior. It was amazing looking). This was the very last year of the turbo-carbureted engine combo (next year they went to fuel injection). I was CONSTANTLY fiddling with the car to keep everything working, and it performing properly. But when it was in tune and running strong, it was fantastic. Fast forward to 1993; I got it into my head that I should go to the local Acura dealer, as they had a used 1991 NSX for sale (20k miles on it). I took it for a thorough test drive. By the time I got back to the dealer, I was ready to get in my Turbo Esprit (which I had brought to trade) and drive home. The General Manager of the dealership asked me why didn’t I like the NSX? I told him that I felt that the NSX was undoubtably the better car, but that my Turbo Esprit was the better exotic car. The NSX just didn’t thrill me like the Lotus; it was too clinical and boring and soulless. I wish I had never sold that Turbo! (see pic from a longggg time ago at a local autocross in it)
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Interesting story. I heard similar stories about C3 Corvette owners with triple carburetors that had to be balanced just right. I had a 1968 Corvette for almost 22 years. It had an upgraded suspension and a ZZ3 crate engine, Doug Thorley headers, and no power steering and windows. And although I met many former owners who said they'd wished that they never sold theirs, I enentually realized why they did. As the years went by, I got tired of replacing brake light switches, tach drive cables, gauges, starter motors, and finding a good carburetor tuner. I will never say that I wished I had never sold it, but I am glad I had it for many years. New "adventures" await, and my bucket lists get heavier. :)
 

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