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@Leonard people have literally said "this isn't the old lotus" for decades. The original Elise had the same or bigger reception and they were bankrupt and bought out not long after. You should look into the history of Lotus. Anyway I think I made my point lol

@Leonard manufacturing processes by nature are deflationary. My point more so is that over 85% of the world's most used currency was printed in the last 22 months. No one knows where these markets are going. I could extrapolate 100 reasons why the prices could go either way. Don't forget Lotus...

@Leonard maybe prices will go up maybe they won't. Maybe the car bubble will pop and Lotus will be giving out $6000 discounts like candy as they were this time last year. No one knows those answers so if you think it's a deal then get the FE, If not then wait. No sense debating the what's ifs

If you've seen shadow grey in person you know how blue it looks.

@Leonard all v6 manual come with LSD. And while the rotors might be cool I doubt I will notice the difference with the car being 400hp. Also Evora had floating rotors so I doubt that they won't be 2 piece, just not their new style rotors you see on Porsche currently. Also increased redline is a...

@Leonard I'm aware of what else but painted calipers and some alcatara don't interest me much. And I won't be adding the expensive tires either. For me personally the FE is not a bargain

@Leonard depends on cost of paint and if you prefer those colors IMO. 10k for a better stereo, wheels and some seats basically. Personally I think I'll save that 10k and buy higher quality wheels and a much better stereo for less. The seats on the Emira are a hot topic anyway so who knows if...

Different strokes for different folks. No one is making anyone buy a manual or an auto. Personally I love DCT cars and manuals but the Evora auto is embarrassingly bad, especially for the price tag. Glad to hear it makes people happy but you're no doubt missing out on a lot of the experience...

Great review that basically echoes everything I felt about the Evora. Definitely looking forward to this Emira comparison

Your comments remind me of a Mercedes interior. Looks great in photos but once you're touching things you realize it's not what you were originally thinking. On the contrary my older M car doesn't look as flashy inside but the materials are high quality.

@xen an f1 driver wouldnt notice the difference.

Cool post. I am definitely ashamed of things I have said on here. We all want the Emira to be incredible and admittedly I am not good at finding out it isn't. Life is too short for that though.

@Tonyshepp considering most cars that cost half the price have this option I would say it's not cost or complexity its the fact that Lotus rarely if ever improves on anything and their customers eat it up anyway. Let's be real it's 90k and is marketed as the 'everyday lotus' but still doesn't...

There are many things like adaptive suspension you will find on *every* other sports car except Lotus. Chalk it up to another short coming that will never be fixed or improved on

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@xen dont waste your time. There is literally nothing that you can say that will change a fan boys mind.

400 is atrocious and it's sad that people are defending it. No one calls an exige 430 over powered. Most people who can actually drive would still say it's slow but somehow a car that weights 900 lbs more with less power is fine. No one with any driving skills would call a 3200 lb car with 400...

@Eagle7 respectfully you're way off and everything you said is incorrect. All those have ZERO effect on emissions and the delta between superchargers, gearing, and final drive is MINIMAL way less than 3k or anything people would care about for the huge performance jump. Lotus chose not to do it...

@Tonyshepp that should read "The emira is a 100k sports car and people rightly expect it to have the specifications of one"

@NickR hurling insults is usually a good sign that you've got nothing constructive to say and can't actually refute anything I said. I'm sorry if me saying a car is slow hurts any of your feelings

@TomE because I can make it faster by upgrading simple but but now expensive things like the supercharger, transmission and final drive. Something that should've been extremely obvious lotus. The Emira is an awesome car, just not for 100k. For 100k it needs to be 500hp so I'll spend the extra to...

@eclat2emira thats an incorrect assumption. I liked the Evora GT but it was painfully slow. Even on a track my M3 was faster, thats sad. I love the way the car drives with the exception of how slow it is. I along with many others feel the same way. Adding another 100hp won't change the feel but...

@eclat2emira because this is a Lotus forum not a lotus fan boy club where we pretend that everything is perfect. The car is very slow for how expensive it is. Not sure why that hurts so many feelings

@EM33RA that's incorrect as I'm #1 at my dealer. But really appreciate your fantastic rebuttal of my arguments

@eclat2emira acceleration is one of the most iimportant aspects of driving experience, sales show that. If you're fine with buying the slowest 100k car on sale that calls itself a sports car then that's great. I'm not, I expect a lot more for 6 figures; like 99% of other consumers which is why...

Not so fun fact: The Emira is the slowest car you can buy for 100k including performance SUVS. Most 50k performance cars will DUST it. With that said hopefully Lotus can make it stand out. I don't think reviews will make people want this car more and I don't think the wait times will be nearly...

@VL3X Yes and that's why this car isn't for most people. I am a fan of the car but I think that will be the barrier to entry for most people. You have to be a huge fan of the positives to outweigh all the negatives, as with any car on sale because nothing is perfect. I'm likely going to put a...

@VL3X realistically anything over 330 wheel hp and close to 3200 lbs will beat it due to gearing and power delivery ect

@VL3X you weren't wrong the Evora Gt is very slow. From the way it delivers power to how long the gearing is will definitely leave you wanting more if you are used to faster cars. Its not a fun highway car but where it shines are on backroads with constant switch backs. Realistically it needs at...

Pretty positive the headliner is black alcantara

Well that sucks if Lotus didn't upgrade a single part in the transmission as it's been an issue for over a decade. Making these parts stronger is extremely easy to do and would no doubt be another big let down if they didn't. Same exact engine and trans and 90% of the same suspension components...

Regarding the Emira being a new platform I would love to see that they addressed all the gearing issues of the Evoras. Hopefully it's not the exact same engine/trans/final drive as the Evora because that would be disappointing.

@andrew6382 I think it would be cool to see them do seats like BMW does in the new M3/M4. Those things are amazing and really put the car's interior on another level.

From the Recaros to the Sparcos that were in the Evora I think it's safe to say Lotus is usually on top of their seat game and Emira will be no different. If anything probably the nicest ones ever, minus the carbon

@Rasputin the same way people buy any new turbo car. They look at the numbers instead of the sound. New M cars are a perfect example. Sound like crap but sell like hot cakes. Amg is already following and Audi has been there with the exception of their glorius V10. Great for manufactuers as it's...

IMO the Evora had one of the best start ups and I don't expect much difference from the Emira.

@TomE fortunately I'm #1 at my dealer. The only reason I know this is because I had to tell them the car existed in the first place "Wait you want to buy the Evija?" they said. But I'm sure everyone behind me most likely has no clue. What I'm wondering is at what point do I lose my spot when I...

At this point I think most dealers know how many cars they're getting. Regardless of that they should be completely transparent about what number you are in the que. It comes across as very untrustworthy when a dealer won't say where you are in line. It's one thing to say they don't know if you...

I'm 100% out if there is any ADM or if they refuse to sign a contract before I give them a non-refundable deposit. I don't care if it means not getting the car. With that said I hope they don't mess about because I'm excited about this car