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Porsche charges $3200 to add "deviated stitching" to the leather that already has black stitching, which is the same thing just a different spool when they make it for you. It might cost $10 more for them to buy a colored spool. I love options like this, bitter and funny but whatever right? i...

everything bmw makes is a glorified passenger car. maybe the z4 is an exception but it is not pretty either. maybe a 10 million dollar F1 car, ok.

Yes, long island, im here too. 2023 Or later, like 2050 is later so is 2056. Mm. They keep taking those $$$ deposits though.

4GIV8M3: "IM A DRIVER I HAVE MY OWN PARKING SPOT I AM IMPORTANT I DESERVE TO BE LISTENED TO I DRIVE ON A TRACK EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY I AM LIKE MICHAEL SCHUMACHER I KNOW RACING" I love these types. just buy the freakin car or not.

There are two mid engine cars that have power worth getting: Lotus Emira Porsche Cayman S Everything else is either a crappy sports car, aka, anything not mid-engine. Even a 911 does not handle as well as the car 1/2 it's price that Porsche sells (Cayman/boxster). That's dumb. Another thing...

Uh. Ok. so you have not "heard" of anything. Did you go on the forums or type into youtube ever: Supra Engine Oil issues supra engine replacement then you will hear of things. I have not heard about Kia's transmission problems as I have never searched for information about that. Also, a...

The BMW engine does not even have a dipstick to check oil. So many have detonated into stupid oblivion already. The better engine is the one that does not die, clearly it is the Toyota. Also tuned port+direct injection. Made in Japan vs. Made to have maintenance and make a dealership more...

I am confused. Like a lot. 2-5 allocations per month puts people in 2025 for cars for the list they have. I am not buying a Van Gogh, I am buying a car to buzz around in and go on dates and weekend trips. I want to do that before I am old and crappy. There is the Long island Lotus place...

I know there is a deposits thread. It is also 14 pages long. This is a concept question that could go there, but i think has merit to be asked individually. Also, no one searching for information will find this answer in a 14 page thread, and I think it is really important. How many...

the car's design is so elegant, and the wheels so artistic, that to notice the calipers might detract from the total look.

I currently do not experience anything at all. It is so messy looking into a Lotus, that there is nothing to look at. And no information. And no interaction with the company. Porsche gives a pretty concrete answer to things, and the assistance and information is pretty good. But they will...

Once the cars can go 450 miles at high speed in the winter vs 180 miles , maybe. once they make them below 3100 lbs and 450+ miles driving high speed in the winter, maybe. Batteries = ancient technology = do not make sense for vehicles

well isnt that special

really shows the 1 trick pony existence of the GT4. Is it a cool car? yes. Will it last a long long time driving hard? yes. Should one own it if super wealthy as a track porsche experience car? Yes or the Sypder. Is it worth it cross shopping with a new Emira? Absolutely not. And that's...

well, i have never driven a car hard that could reasonably take downshifting to 1st. I believe that is one of the reasons they are geared tall. To go up the gear is quite typical and boring as a test after a while, in terms of driving a car truly hard. it is the downshift that the Porsche 718...

It is in ways and not in others. Have you felt what it is like to hold 7000-8000 on such a car? It is an irritable experience, and one that you would not want to do on "B roads". The supercharged Emira would be more enjoyable, or the 2.5L 718 S for power types. I said this in the above post...

I would rather a 2.0 or 2.5 L 718 than a 4.0 GTS. The GTS is heavier and "twitchier" and has no mid power band. The two GT cars with that engine, the Spyder and the GT4, have wonderful chassis and aero as well as different tires and wheels tuned for that engine. 4.0 GTS is cool and fun, but...

yes that is true. The only sad one is that the 718 probably wont be in existence much longer. The good thing is the Lotus is beginning its production run. less pressure to buy one now. 718's are going flying turd EV's shortly.

Well, it is a Boxster T, and it would not appear until October of 2022. I am wondering if i should just wait for an emira. Will they even fulfill within reasonable time 2023 orders placed? Will they all be fulfilled? Seems like they are piling up at dealerships. Yeah. I am thinking the...

whenever a forum gets defensive, they get super literal. they are really similar cars. nothing ground breaking. i would guess evora was made to be within limits of a 718 and the emira is really similar to an evora from what i see. Just not a heck of a lot to make someone sway one way or the...

yes, i considered a 370z. then i looked in person at a ND2 MX-5 RF and was like.... uhhhh no. just no. Driving my MX-5 RF is 3x the experience and is actually a little cheaper strangely enough.

i think it could be as well. I hope the storage behind the seats + the rear space in the v6 i want to order will fit stuff. It seems it will. shrug? Someone gave some good pictures. The 718 has a big front trunk and small back.

I am looking at a dealer spec sheet, pdf, from one of their training sessions. It was forwarded to me from a dealer. I am confused. It is almost the exact same dimensions, height even the same, weight, to a 718 mid series car. A 718 T in like a Boxster would be a chunk lower as well as a...

I agree they deserve everything coming to them and all the praise. For people like us, on a Lotus forum, we would not care too much for the driving experience of a new Z. It will most likely not feel special enough in handling.

GT4 makes people miserable as a daily driver. it is overpriced. I like it a lot. The 718 Spyder is the GT car to own by Porsche. Spyder is more reasonable as a daily car, more beautiful, super fast still. GT4 is for people with a lot of leisure time on a track, i find it kind of pointless...

It's on the same tall, heavy, bad balanced frame as the 15 year old car it come from :( Get a BRZ or toyota over this, totally lotus like experience in manual transmission. 2800lbs max in limited trim

I just want the white leather interior. Yum.

Is it ground clearance of 125mm at the lowest point? which is the only way any manufacturer states i ever in the history of automobiles? Or it is 125 at the front and then descends on that angle to a lower measurement? which no other manufacturer on earth would rationally state? Hoping for...

Definitely would want to know this. Thus far, this is notably taller than a 718 Boxster T. The front angle though, not sure how to compare them.

I hated the idea that to buy a Porsche 718 T, and use sport and sport+ mode, i had to accept Rev Matching. How irritating! But then i realized: normal mode has no rev matching, but if you want to squeeze all of the speed out of it, you want to squeeze all the speed out of it. Rev matching...

Thank you for the welcome :) I will call monday and ask to put one down. I am used to Porsche "allocations" which currently suck bad.

wow, thank you. Looking at this between my patient peeps :D (always looking for something to read fancy car wise between peeps).

well, i have not fully lept yet. I would like to but I have not seen the storage. I use my car every day, only drive sports cars, and want this to be my main car for dailying things and vacationing. I need to stick my hand inside one and poke around. It's hard to tell how much the trunk...

I am looking to get an allocation as well. Was not sure, kind of hesitated putting cash down on another non existent sport car, but i guess i should. I am on long island as well