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I wonder if we are all a little too close to the product for too long, we analyse every rumour and story and the general feeling I get is fatigue and a little frustration because of the way Lotus disseminates information, I'm especially thinking about the FE colours as an example. As early...

Everything I've heard so far is it's only track reviews... I'm not sure why but rumour is a delay with the Vehicle Certification Agency. As production of the car has only just started I'd assume it's a one off car but using the production configuration

I know they said add lightness but i'm sure there are a few bits missing to this car?

Schadenfreude it's not but the facts are pretty much what they are. The cost of everything has gone up and there is next to no discounting on materials. In some cases you can't even get the quantity needed. This is inflationary.

benvenuto. ho una prima edizione nimbus in ordine. non molto tempo ora e puoi effettivamente vedere come appare!

Ok... We got the wonky 'badge' but are there any other unique touches. A signed plate on the interior? Matt W signing the underside of the bonnet? ... A Cuddly toy ... Tea service...

Chatted to the dealer today about the base car. His view was there was little to no chance of getting the base price as currently quoted. To be honest the Emira at £75k is looking to be good value

Seems to me they are starting a news cycle with the Emira. This will be based a round a whole new bunch of interviews / reviews as we move into March. My dealer has confirmed 2 cars arriving in June from Lotus and owned by Lotus. One car will be always kept in the showroom and one as a demostrator

That's not the production car, it's the dynamic roadshow one ... unless it's just a drop in photo

I popped into the dealer today as i was nearby and haven't seen the samples since the roadshow. I walked around with Nimbus putting it under different lighting (except direct sunlight as there wasn't any!) anyways, one thing with this colour is it reflects colours near it, to get a bronze look...

That was the height of sophistication!

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/business-dealership%2C-sales-and-marketing/what-agency-retail-model-could-mean-lotus-and-its

On the FB group nimbus might be the same as pebble grey (Volvo owned by Geely)

As Tom has seen the actual colour and doesn't think it's right I'd say it's nothing to worry about

If it drives like the Evora I'm more than happy

Cool. I was definitely going to remove the mesh. Seems like it should be just a couple of clips then

Yeah. For me it was a constant swing between red and nimbus. If I wasn't locked in I'm sure I'd be back to red ... As you say it's kind of a relief not having the option anymore

Nothing is so exhausting as indecision, and nothing is so futile. - Bertrand Russell

The only answer is that they are not being given the freedom to do their jobs.... possibly sign off is required which would infer a heavy top down leadership situation. So in that sense the problem is at the door of Simon Clare

There was a hint of gold/bronze fleck in the sample I saw

You dont need to go with magic engines. The Ford EcoBoost six-cylinder engine is one of the best V6 engines available today. The V6 3.5 liters delivers 669 horsepower and being used in the current Ford GT supercar.

It's even worse, there was only ONE set of colour samples going around with the show car, none sent out to dealers (agents) even months later I asked my local dealer if I could look at the interior samples and was told they didn't have any! Crazy

It's the same torque number as the the 416 so I think it's likely

Yep. I'm pretty sure it's old photos

I think the Miata is a great little car, feels faster than it is which is great for your licence!

Both these combos are great. Personally i wouldn't mix and match your choices. Either one is going to be great!

That would be nice ... But a realistic view would be the Volvo float with a return of 70% in 2 years

Thanks. Just done that and works a treat!

There are 2 obvious trolls on this forum who use the standard devices: Alternative facts Unsubstantiated assertions as fact Rewrite the argument to substantiate some other point Use attacking language Etc There is absolutely no point to engage with them

The guesstimate is £64k but as @KJD says we really don't know. Hopefully more info in march

Probably has 10 Ferraris and airwolf in his underground lair

What Utter shite according to 'many others'

i'd agree with that

I've owned full electric for 3 years. Unless you are charging at home every night with the rare chrage on a long journey i'd recommend something else. The good thing with EV you can put it through the company with no p11d issues both me (Ipace HSE)and wife (Mini) are EV owners. Range is always...

Got to say that the Emira is the best looking car with decent handling (hopefully!) in it's price bracket so for me it is that or i change tack. 1) lower cost :: MX-5 2.0 new 2) save up a bit more :: 570s secondhand

It could also imply they have a very high level of confidence in the car. But yeah, it's unusual. I note it's actually called a reservation fee and not a deposit as a deposit is classed as a payment on the cost of the car.

A good recent article here https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/lotus/lotus-suv-crossover/ I'm afraid this is not going to be cheap. I'd say 85k and up.

That would be great!