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Huh? What is the body made of then?

It is strange/funny how different the reviews of basically the same car can be. Shifter is very positive like a rifle bolt... shifter is pretty vague. Plenty of power to have fun...power is pretty disappointing, steering is fantastic....steering doesn't have enough feedback. I take the reviews...

That is a very interesting way to put it. I like that. I have a BMW i8 Roadster. It never sold well since it was expensive and all the reviews said it should have more power for what it looks like. Then I read somewhere where someone said "judge it for what it is, not for what you think it...

Test drove the car at Oakville this afternoon. There isn't really anything I can add that hasn't been said before, so this will be brief. I liked the yellow until I saw it in person. A bit muted, almost an orangey yellow. Everyone has their own taste, but for me I didn't like it. Other that...

I'll be driving this, since it will be finished well before the Emira shows up.

15 votes and 83 posts. Another thread down the toilet with pointless arguements.

Got my test drive scheduled for Friday Nov 4th at Oakville. Received an email from Tony to call him and arrange it, so of course I did. Looks like Gentry has it for 2 days then Oakville for 2 days; assuming it is the same car. Yellow one is all I know.

My concern is that it is not unusual to have snow anytime soon. Might have made more sense to start the test drives north and work their way down to warmer climates.

So you put a deposit this year and got a call about a test drive and others that put in a deposit much earlier haven't been called? Lotus hard at work ticking people off again.

You're calculating the luxury tax wrong. It will be 20% of the amount over $100,000.

A car dealer....shady? Who would have thought! :ROFLMAO: But you're not alone. Most people that thought, or still think, they are getting an FE aren't.

I was totally unimpressed. In fact, I was annoyed. Send emails out to people that have given you money for a new car and send them info on anything EXCEPT about when they might get their car. I emailed Lotus customer support to tell them that and it seems that they forwarded it to my dealer who...

Hot off the press....sort of. Just got off the phone with Tony at Oakville Lotus, where I've got my order in. Now I don't know if what he told me applies to all North America (I think it does) or just Canada. Here is what he knows... ...nothing! Absolutely nothing! His Lotus Canada rep knows...

Lotus Oakville if it matters.

Agree completely how bad Lotus has handled this, and continues to do so. Absolutely no communication from my dealer. They won't even tell me where I am on their list despite my asking many times. I ordered in Sept and the last I was told is that I would get a FE car in early '23. I'll check...

The thing you sit on in front of your house while watching cars go by.

Unless it doesn't obey the laws of thermodynamics and physics, it will be the same temperature as everything around it.

And did you read the part before that where it states the First Edition cars available "from Spring 2022". As if Lotus communication isn't bad enough, now they are sending out information that everyone knows is not true.

Probably time to grow the trees from seeds to get the wood! ;)

My insurance company does pay for the replacement value for up to 4 years from when the car is new. So if it gets stolen I either get a new one or the money for it and can buy something else. Works for me. Since I'm paying insurance anyways, and have payed enough over the years, I don't worry...

And that's the issue. That makes it about 70 cars for Canada. With 6 dealership each having 50+ deposits makes 300+ deposits. So most people are not going to get the V6 FE they were told they have a deposit on and were getting. And yes, Oakville seems to know nothing. The Vancouver dealership...

Deposit for what spec/engine?

OK, since it is clear to you (but still not to me) I'll ask you. I have a deposit in on an FE since around August. Will I get an FE car? You seem to be saying they will be producing the FE for more than 1 production year. Someone is saying their dealer will get around 10 cars this year and 20...

I don't understand this at all. A lot of deposits came well after July 2021. If someone has a deposit with a dealer in Canada that has taken around 50 deposits, that means they aren't getting a car at all?

And maybe they don't get the expensive car crowd!

Seriously?!?! How the heck would anyone know this? You want people to guess the size of your garage and then tell you if they think it will fit? Yes, it will fit perfectly. You will have exactly 4.24’ of extra space on the sides and 2.53’ at the front, so you will not have any issues.

“With the Emira and Evija starting production in the coming months, Lotus Advanced Performance is another significant opportunity to enhance our brand and communicate direct with customers.” Yes, because you are doing such a great job now with communication with customers.

Nothing against TomE, he is really doing a fantastic job of communicating what he knows to try and help everyone here. A pity Lotus is not doing the same. As for cutting Lotus some slack, I totally disagree with that. Yes, there is a lot going on with the number of orders, a new car, a new...

It is difficult/impossible to believe this includes Canada since 2 dealers this week have said they don’t officially know how many cars they are getting this year. Dealers are lying to customers?

Yes. They said preliminary number is 10 cars this year, but apparently that is not confirmed from their reps (whatever that means). I've asked how many orders they have and what number I am, but they don't seem to want to tell me. I emailed Lotus inquires to let them know how disappointed I am...

Oakville is getting 10, Calgary getting 9, Gentry I don’t know.

Ever driven a C7 or C8 Vette? Apparently not. The handling is amazing and pretty sure will pull more G’s cornering than most Lotus.

You may be very disappointed then. Production for North America isn’t starting until September and Lotus is saying 700 cars for NA. Unless I’m not understanding the email that has been reference from Lotus.

Keep in mind it doesn’t say what the “lions share” is. 2 cars or 200? ;)

It just seems strange to me to wear gloves to protect the interior of the car. That's so the next owner can have an immaculate interior? I've had leather steering wheels in 12 year old daily drivers that look great, so I don't see that leather needs protecting. Besides, leather in cars these...

Well, in Canada, I have no idea when I will see an actual car. No idea when the cars will be shipped. No idea if it will be making the rounds like in the US. No idea how many will actually be coming in to the country. The dealers don’t know either, so I call that being left in the dark. The only...

You mean by keeping the people with deposits completely in the dark as to what is happening? Very different in the UK I suppose than in N America.

I guess you didn't watch the video then. It will absolutely beat the Emira on any track, and that's without even knowing what the Emira will do. But with the Weissach package and a few other options, it is twice the price. And if anyone thinks Porsche put looks ahead of performance, then watch...

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