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Does this really count? 🤔

Hahahaha! Well I don't consider anyone spending $100+k on a single vehicle "cheap" 😉

I guess if you want a zero option 1LZ and wait who knows how long...

Except it's not $100k USD...

A drop in sales for Porsche can't even be compared to a drop in sales for Lotus when Lotus literally has 3 models for sale and one isn't even on the table for 99.9% of people.

Porsche is in a different league (branding, dealer network, reliability) and won't be effected by the price increase like Lotus. Especially as Lotus plans to go full EV. I agree with others who's stated that if the Emira was originally introduced as a $100+k car, the deposit list wouldn't be...

Gorgeous shots! That yellow sure does stand out!

What do you mean by "lacquer?" Is it the clear coat you're referring to? Clear coat is definitely not lacquer. Due to environmental regulations, most automotive paint is now water-based, which does make them softer than paint used to be. Many people complain about chipping and scratching on...

I'm a hobbyist detailer so this kinda nerdy stuff interests me. 🤣

Appreciate your reply. I don't remember Harry doing any paint measurements... Again, it does take a special type of tool to measure paint depth on composites, fiberglass, etc. They are much more expensive and most people won't have that type of gauge. But a high end detailer may.

I'll try on this thread then 😊. You mentioned the paint being "thin." Can you tell me how this was concluded if not with a paint depth gauge?

I really like it!! I see why people are complaining about the orange peel now. Did they happen to do paint depth readings? I know it takes a more advanced tool for composites and fiberglass, etc., but they seem like the type of shop to have those tools. Just curious as you mentioned the paint...

I think the vast majority have the same exact feelings you do. Please do update with your thoughts after the test drive. We'll be anxious to hear what you decide. It's a tough one for sure!

I can't tell if you're kidding here or not. The "coal rolling" diesel guys single handedly set the EPA into motion to change all of the environmental restrictios surrounding all new vehicles? Seems regulations are much more strict in other countries. We just have to keep up so we don't look bad 🤣

I know many people who swear the only way to buy a Merc or Bimmer is to buy new so you're 100% covered should any problems arise. I feel the newer Porsche's are more reliable (depending on models). A lot of the 911's (probably late 997.2's and 991+) are considered bullet proof by long time Pcar...

If I'm lucky enough to get into a 2.0 slot, I'll most likely take it. Just need to decide which will be traded in on it. The Turbo S or Hellcat. Fortunately I have nothing but time 🤣 I'll probably stick with Magma, unless I'm absolutely wowed by the other colors introduced.

I love AM and think they're beautiful. The one thing that has kept me away every single time I start to want one again is the cost of maintenance. I guess maybe if you're in the UK it isn't as bad?

This has happened before with Dealers and Lotus meetings. All dealers at the same meeting but taking away different information. I agree with @kitkat...Gator's info has always shown to be true and accurate.

Yes true and I hear you... but someone's "new" Porsche doesn't literally have to be "NEW" ya know 😉 Lots of practically new (by mileage and condition) Porsche's available. That opens the door up a bit more for those who can't afford the $150k new Pcar. CPO is available on many used Porsche's...

Same here! Closest I'll ever get to my Ferrari dream!

I've never really understood this line of thinking. If your comparing a Dodge Ram to an MX-5 I can see being totally confused. But when talking about a fun, weekend sports car, I feel the range of options is much wider. I mean shoot, some people are looking at the LC500 or C8 as the Emira...

Doug's a Porsche guy... I think if it was his money, the T would be in his garage.

I thought Doug's review was right on the money. Remember...this is a guy who in 2012 (I believe) wrote a Jalopnik article about Lotus disappearing from the US and nobody would notice. I think, like many, he has a love/hate relationship. But his review was very fair, in imo. Especially liked how...

In a "normal" experience, we probably would get to try at least a couple of those options. 🤣 I was awaiting a test drive to make the decision to stay or pull out. I missed the dealer demo last year, unfortunately, as I was expecting them to get one this spring based on what they had said...

Yes dealerships may very well be different. And if you are talking the end of 2024, then if hope to God the dealers would have something! Also, Bellevue IS one of the larger ones. I believe in the top 3. I guess my point in the end is that nobody knows what's going to happen. Nothing is set in...

"Unfortunately it's unlikely we will have our Demo car here for customers to experience the car prior to choosing their production build. So Lotus USA is talking about having another driving experience in April or May, so more deposit holders can experience and learn about the car prior to...

According to my dealer in Bellevue...they won't be getting dealer demos. He said Lotus may be working on another tour like last year so people can experience them.

Available color: Tin Foil ***color shown coming soon!

Omg totally had this happen! But the vehicle was an older soccer mom SUV! She was just sitting there in her car, door wide open against my car. Kids running around. I was livid as I had parked a ways out 🙄

Agree with your points. Again, I've never been a C8 fan. But just didn't agree with Hell4leather's calling the interior "trash" either. I am sure JayEmm went into his C8 review knowing it couldn't truly be compared to the Emira. So again, it was surprising to me that he called it a "miss" when...

I love that someone had an opposing view and I also love that JayEmm doesn't seem to pander to the automakers. Totally agree that the C8 is not in its element in the UK. I never a fan of the C8. However thr Z06 is interesting. Have yet to drive a C8 but owned 2 C7's and I'd have another in a...

Soul red is gorgeous. I remember watching something about how they get so much depth. There's a special process to get the paint to look like it does. Many thin layers.

Not sure you can honestly say the interior is "trash." Let's look to previous generations to see how far this interior has really come. Also, JayEmm is one of the very few reviewers who was disappointed in the C8. It was actually quite a surprising review, imo. Nearly every reviewer had praised...

As someone who's been on a list for the base for a year now (missed the FE cutoff so switched dealers), in the #160's when I was first added to the list, that's exactly the reason I don't want to jump off quite yet. You cancel your Emira order now, you may very well be buying used. If that's OK...

Hahahaha! Oh I stay pretty well updated but I did somehow miss this update. I knew one was coming though! Thanks for the link!

OK I guess I missed the latest update then somehow. I didn't know anything about the additional 600 FE's. I've always assumed an increase for the base edition cars. Just seemed obvious.

OK wait....I'm confused. Is the price increase not for FE's then? Or will it be like the UK and some of the chosen ones will have to cough up the extra while others get their original price honored?

Ya sorry to burst your bubble. Just a canned response we all got after our deposit.

I'll be doing privacy glass with 20% tint on the doors. I like a concealed look 🤣

My sales guy said today that he anticipates the dealer demos arriving June/July now. 🙁