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Personally I think it’s a mistake on Lotus’ part to not do a mid calendar year model year change as it causes a nightmare on the resale market as well as the parts/aftermarket. I imagine country and region specific certifications are driving it. It’s also perplexing the schism that is the FE...

Read the 3rd paragraph, All cars built in 2023 will be considered 2024 Model Year cars. For the USA there will never be MY22 or MY23 Emira’s.

The biggest change I’ve seen over the last few weeks is the I4 availability in the US. This is a radical shift making it look like they may be opening up the FE I4 order bank soon. Something we didn’t expect until mid next year.

Second deposit isn’t a thing in the US, Lotus is not making anyone place a second deposit so it must be a dealership thing. If the dealer is making the request then make sure they have an allocation and your name is attached to an order. It sounds like Lotus plans of opening their order banks...

Trust me, that’s already happened.

And you signed that? I interviewed 5 dealers before I placed my reservation with Naples, only one of the five, Jacksonville, claimed theirs was non refundable, they also wanted $5000. It is also in direct conflict with Lotus’ requirement that the “reservation” is fully refundable until it’s...

He is a customer of the dealer, not Lotus. Lotus never required a non refundable deposit. If he looks at his contract the 2 parties are him and his dealer, not Lotus Cars US or Lotus UK.

Exactly, I am a reservation holder in the US, I never received that email. Regarding the rest of the noise being thrown around here it’s really quite simple, in North America (Location matters), you are either a reservation holder or have a confirmed order. Only 700 people have a confirmed...

Oops, my bad, I misread your post, sorry. Congrats on having a production month. Us lowly late to the party folks get to wait another year + before we can even hope for a delivery.

@Nlsmith2123 How are you March production and not an FE? No allocation or orders have been placed in the US for a Base version. If you aren’t an FE you don’t have an order and cannot have a production month. The earliest US production date for a base model is July and that’s a push.

He’s not in the UK, he does not have an order placed with Lotus UK. He is either dealing with the AU importer or the selling dealer, neither of which are “Lotus” itself, they are independent agencies.

Although I don’t know how dealer relationships work in the EU or elsewhere, in the US and Canada dealers manage sequencing, not Lotus. Lotus gives the dealer an allocation and the dealer matches a name to the order. With the FE’s, dealers were given blocks of allocations and submitted them all...

His icon shows the UK so we can assume it's just that. The only thing they should allow you to do is take delivery or request a refund, nothing else. If they do anything more they are going to piss off everyone in line behind you.

If you don't have a garage or gate opener then it's a worthless option. Simply use CarPlay or Android Auto to voice control any home automation device you may own. Homelink has tried to keep itself relevant by adding integrations but they are, at best, last generation and simply not worth the...

I was told buy the plan tour guide it can never be 3 shifts. Lotus assembly workers work 4 days per week, 10 hours per shift (technically less than that since a UK work week is 37 hours). Friday is a catch up / clean up day. I don’t know what the lag time between shifts is, the tour guide did...

Sport suspension with Cup 2’s on American roads. Reviews should be interesting.

Aside from the covers all the prices are defaults from the web site creation software they are using, the price isn’t 99K. Look at the Evora section for an idea of what the pricing may be. Based on the Evora prices you could theoretically build a 475HP, Dual Clutch Emira for an extra ~30K...

You might want to pick up the phone, "social" is not a primary communication channel for any car dealer in the US, regardless what some may think. But yes, that ship sailed over a year ago.

My comment was about Emira production declining, not the 718, which, BTW will be put to rest in 2025.

Not that it's completely relevant to the conversation but it is their closest competition. Porsche US Sales 718 Boxster/Cayman 2021 4.292 2020 3.447 2019 3.880 2018 5.276 2017 5.087 2016 6.260 Or, 28182 718 Boxster/Caymans' in roughly the same time period Lotus hopes to be...

700 V6 FE’s for NA, I believe 620 are US. Canada and Mexico share the remaining 80.

Exactly what Stelantis is doing with Alfa’s and Maserati’s, their destination charges are ~$1300 and~$1150 respectively. My German built Spyder was $1195. Both are less not because there are any fewer steps but because they basically own their own ships (VW group in Porsche’s case) and car...

As of today, August 20th there is no official delivery charge set. Some dealers are assuming it will be what it was for the Evora and presenting it as fact, it isn’t. They may end up being correct but until someone sees it in print from Lotus it’s just conjecture. However it probably will be...

I don't disagree having one would be great but if you're honest and are really looking for a Porsche track weapon buy a used Cup car. Then it's a real race car and you can get the excitement you're looking for at a fairly reasonable cost.

Go ahead an try and buy one for $200K anywhere in the world……. And as a road car it’s silly, AP even hinted as much saying, in no uncertain terms this is strictly a track car you can slap a tag on. In real world driving it jewelry, pure ego trip, look at me and how great I am kind of buyers...

North America V6 FE allocation didn’t change, those orders are already in the books. What changed is the total number of vehicles allocation for calendar year 2023 and all North American cars will be delivered as Model Year 2024. What wasn’t clear is will FE also be MY24? Technically all NA...

GPF’s are not required on US gasoline cars through 2027. The EPA will revisit rules at that point and may choose to require them but most manufacturers can meet US regulations without them. I doubt Lotus will add the part to the US cars but may decide it’s easier to build one version...

I’ve been to the factory, talked to some workers and supervisors and by modern car factory standards, one car off the line every 17 minutes is an order of magnitude slower than the mainstream factories. Everyone I spoke with was confident that if they had the parts they could achieve the 25 or...

The estimates are a good mind game but what we do know is the max that could be built assuming the logistics issues get sorted. 7500 / year without sub contracting someone to build chassis 10000 / year is max for the 2 shifts at the factory, assuming they sort the chassis issue. Regarding...

For all those with Instagram accounts.

That DV with Silver wheels was going to be my spec (with yellow calipers) but I’m really leaning towards Numbus but whatever color the car is, silver has always been my wheel spec.

I think you’re barking up a dead tree, once it’s locked it’s locked. Otherwise the term locked has no meaning.

From what I’ve read and heard about the only Goodyear that the Porsche guys seem to have respect for is the F1 Supercar 3R which is the DOT track day tire. Not much love for any other “F1” Goodyears.

Ain’t that the truth. I joined Rennlist back in 1999/2000 when it was barely more than a message board. I gave up on them around 2010 and only came back when I was waiting on my Spyder to arrive since I was bored.

I acquired my first porsche in 1978, a 1974 914 2.0. I currently have a 2021 718 Spyder in the garage. In the interim I’ve owned 14 Porsche’s, all but 2 of them used because I refused to lose the initial depreciation (Porsche Tax) and they change so incrementally that it rarely made sense to...

This is a bit like saying the Fiat X19 was a direct competitor to the Ferrari 308………. Hard Pass here.

Ok, help me out here. I watched the review twice and am stretched to understand all the angst. For me it was a glowing review that describes the car I always expecting Lotus to deliver. It makes me even more excited to get to experience the “Lotus” style of motoring. Literally the only...

Not to throw cold water on this but unless you’re willing to pay ADM getting a car before MY24 is at best a crap shoot. Although Lotus won’t release any real numbers the general consensus there are far more deposits in North America than there are allocations for the entire MY23 allocations...

Yes, he is the embodiment of pure evil. He and his cohort, Soros need to be disappeared.