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I get a kick out of the fact that the biggest Lotus dealer in the US still misspells Eletre.

If you don't mind ADM there will almost certainly be cars up for sale as soon as FE1.0 holders take delivery. A lot can happen in 3 years and I'm sure some folks just want their money back at this point but are locked in until the keys are handed over.

Are US 1.0 FEs still MY2024?

I drive a Mexican-built Audi and am quite happy with it. It's a legit question, and I suspect it'll apply to Lotus sooner rather than later, so good luck policing that conversation going forward. It already applies to the Eletre.

My comment was pretty specific about whether an Emira produced in China would still be accepted by the market as a Lotus. I wasn't making any blanket comparisons. I disagree with its censure.

I fail to see the hard line between "Lotus parent company" and "Chinese products". Please explain.

Geely may be deciding - perhaps justifiably - that engineering should be done in China for the entire model range.

I'm _really_ curious how the Eletre is tracking with initial sales predictions. If the IPO paperwork was to be believed, Lotus was planning on moving an average of 50k/yr of those once up to full production speed. Literally an order of magnitude more important than Emira when guaging the...

My theory is that Lotus will not deliver a single US car until all of us - _all_ of us - completely give up hope. So take one for the team and embrace despair! It’s the only way.

I dunno, 6 figures ain’t what it used to be. Agree that Lotus has an uphill battle though.

Re: 6-figure EV sportscars, I think there may be a niche there for something sexy with 2 seats. Tesla models X and S are very common in that price range, but the upcoming EV Cayman will be the real competition.

Another one for the Lotus “over-promise, under-deliver” list.

Thank you! Appreciate the data.

Looks, chassis, steering all came in as promised. That’s delivery, not overdelivery. I meant all the remainjng specs promised at launch: 416hp available Spring 2022 60k GBP the best QC ever

Show me any feature on which Lotus has overdelivered with this car…

Ironic they offer red seatbelts, but not on the sportscar.

List of questions follows: "Where's my car?" "Where's my car?" "Where's my f#$%ing car?"

Did you mean "almost 2 years"? Or did you really have a deposit down a year before the reveal?

One hopes Farah can extract a straight answer from Lotus leadership about the US build schedule.

Well if it's full JPS livery alongside the matching Evija that would be pretty cool.

Eye of the beholder I guess. I find the Lucid absolutely repulsive. It looks like the packaging your Chevy Cavalier arrives in.

I suspect the big danger of an Evora is trying to get any parts you might need later.

Is there any correllation with vehicles parked outside vs inside?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you haven't already locked in your order with the factory, there's no way you're getting the old price, regardless of vague dealer promises which aren't in a signed contract.

To my knowledge, the whole batch of 1.0's went in as factory orders between 03/2022 and 05/2022, over a year ago.

I'm curious how you're planning to transfer your order. And at this point if you have a 1.0 you've already submitted the order fully spec'ed, right?

Dog-turd Brown: Also note: I discovered that if you upload a .png like this, the forum software does an absolutely horrible color conversion during processing. I'll have to convert locally to .jpg in the future before uploading.

Honestly the car’s shape is fantastic, you could paint it dog-turd brown and it’d still look good. But I think 3 blues plus shadow grey is way overkill on the cool end of the spectrum. Shadow grey should get swapped out for orange in the lineup.

First time seeing these. Thanks for posting!

One wonders how much force the boot lid can take.

Just hover over the username and hit "Ignore". Works great. Eventually trolls get bored and wander off if they don't get the attention they're craving.

I believe the same car will be at the Hillsborough Concours this weekend.

Presumably reports real-time location and cockpit audio to the CCP so they can remotely shutdown the car if you mention June 4 or Winnie-the-Pooh.

Also change the badge to “BUICK”

Though of course our Aussie friend has the mic-drop option of actually stepping into his car and driving off...

Actually that makes me wonder if there’s any pattern to the cars with ESC/limp mode issues being stored outside vs inside? Maybe there’s a general issue with water intrusion into the engine electronics?

Honestly one of the big attractions of the Emira to me has always been the reliability of the Toyota powerplant, especially given Lotus's decade of experience with it. It's more than a little disheartening to hear about all the problems with limp mode / O2 sensors / throttle valve issues.