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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    I‘m not so sure about the premium audio from the back anymore after seeing the reviews, therefore I‘m glad that I get the KEF system, even if I‘m not sure about it‘s qualities either 🙈 Let‘s just hope that Lotus exceeds my expectations and that the car itself as well as the KEF system will...
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    Front cover (Car UK 09/03/22)

    Nearly every car on that list is done by Pininfarina. They are working together since forever. They even designed the Dino in the late 60s.
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    Let's talk about the Emira's seats...

    12 way of course, sorry. I corrected it! Was comparing it too much to the Porsche I guess 🙄
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    Can you explain to me why you think that there will be another amount of speakers than the official Lotus document from the Lotus website states? Did you even have a look at it? Here it is again...
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    Let's talk about the Emira's seats...

    There will be a 4-way and a 12-way electric seat. Maybe one of those is sports and the other one comfort? I don't think that there will be another seat for the base model, because they already said that those are the two options. Maybe later down the line with a possible Emira GT, there will be...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    We don't. The car definitely has 10 speakers, as stated in the Japanese document (three Uni-Qs, two woofers, two subwoofers - that's a given fact now, if we believe in this document). You need a channel for every speaker except (sub-)woofers. Three channels for three tweeters, three channels for...
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    Front cover (Car UK 09/03/22)

    It's not about how it looks at first sight, but rather how the whole design is cohesive and makes sense. Of course the two modern mid engine cars look more similar than some 50 year old front engine cars. Maybe Ferrari even was an inspiration for Lotus. Why not? For my taste, most modern mid...
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    Let's talk about the Emira's seats...

    You are very right. I think the overall situation with covid and now the war showed us quite well that it's not the best idea to be dependent of others for every tiny bit that you need to build something.
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    So you defy the qualities of a HiFi system by the number of speakers? Ok then. I'm quite sure however that this won't be the case. We can't tell yet, but KEF won't use an average Bose system as a reference. Nice that this whole discussion came down to speakers. I just wanted to point out that a...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    You already heard the KEF system? Great, how does it sound? The only thing I heard are a lot of different Bose systems and they were all complete crap. the KEF system is expected to be a £3.000 option. Obviously both cars have some stuff that the other car doesn't have. Big plus on the driver...
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    Let's talk about the Emira's seats...

    I would say if they told us that the seats will be lowered by 20mm back in July '21 and still they aren't lowered by February '22, then they won't be lowered at all. How should they have known that they can lower them in the first place, when it hasn't happened even half a year later? They...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    Nope! You get three Uni-Qs (six channels, als you said), two woofers and two subwoofer chassis combined to the fresh air subwoofer. That makes ten speakers, ten channels, ten digital crossover filters (when counting a bandpass as one filter), ten everything. For the subwoofer chassis they could...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    When I spec it to V6 FE spec it's another 20.000€ which leads me to 104.000€. Maybe you get more for your money in the UK. However I was just fair and added the things the Emira has as well, like heated 18 way seats, Burmester, etc. Just apples to apples and not "I don't need this and that...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    I have a Mazda MX-5/Miata with CarPlay fitted to it and there is nothing working without the Cable. Not even a phone call. You can't get to the CarPlay menu, whilst your phone is not connected via a Cable. If you connect via Bluetooth only, you have to use the Mazda UI.
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    The grills are definitely there. But I could imagine that they are only there to be used with the standard sound system. I know it the other way around. If you buy a standard Crafter for example, you get the a pillar grills with nothing behind it, because it only uses one full range speaker per...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    On the German website, they state 1.405kg DIN weight manual and 1.435kg DIN weight PDK, so you either get more standard equipment (we get a steering wheel, two seats and four tires. The rest is extra.), or they are just tweaking our figures. The F8 Tributos weight however is a dry figure, so it...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    The KEF thing is a bit of a bummer for me now. The give us speaker grills without any speakers behind them, which is ridiculous in the first place. Then the tweeters are not even close to where they should be. I just hope that KEF did some DSP magic to figure that out, but we should probably not...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    Then you got that wrong either. 1.405kg is DIN weight for the base i4. 1.458kg is DIN weight for automatic V6 First edition with all it's spec. As you said, DIN is without passengers, but with liquids (100%) and fuel (90%). The 1.405kg is definitely a DIN figure! Everything else doesn't make...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    Good find. What I don't get are the Uni-Qs in the doors. This makes no sense at all if you know anything about HiFi. The special feature of the Uni-Q chassis is that they unify the midrange speaker and the tweeter in a single concentric chassis using the same magnet for both. However a tweeter...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    Maybe you should read correctly. A V6 first edition is 1447kg. The 1405kg from the GTS 4.0 is without any extras. And as we all might know, everything is an extra in a Porsche. You have to add 20.000€ to get close to the Emira FE spec. Do you think those 20.000€ worth of extras don't add any...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    The difference is expected to be 30 kg as TomE mentioned. The i4 is 20kg lighter than the V6 with all their respective periphery and the aluminum subframe for the i4 is another 10kg lighter than the steel frame for the V6. If all those informations are correct, a base V6 would weigh in at 1435kg...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    They are probably wrong then. As I said, DIN is strictly defined as it means German industry standard, therefore it doesn't make sense (and with doesn't make sense I mean it is impossible) to have two different DIN weight figures for the same car.
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    Emira production is underway

    Maybe they just didn't want to create this kind of attention. They already have way more orders than they could handle.
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    That's wrong! 1.405kg is DIN weight for the Base i4, 1.458kg is DIN weight for the V6FE (with automatic as @TomE said), so the 1.458kg includes the heavy seats, KEF audio system and all the other extra stuff that no other manufacturer ever included in their weight figures. DIN weight means all...
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    Any idea which version is lightest weight ?

    @TomE how do you know that the 1458kg weight figure from the V6FE spec sheet refers to to the car being equipped with the auto trans? And do you also have a weight figure for the V6FE with manual trans? That's probably another 5-10kg less weight, right?
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    Let's talk about the Emira's seats...

    As far as I know, the padding in the show cars was quite hard and will get softer in the production cars. This alone can give you another cm. However I wouldn't mind if can't try the seats before committing. For me it's clear that we can sell our early cars without loosing money, probably even...
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    Lotus 132 revealed in patent images

    And I see a sexist with a profile pic that's against the forum rules... I guess type 132 will look bonkers. Of course it's a big car. Too big for me as well, but I love the idea of a daily driver EV from Lotus with crazy looks and crazy performance. Looking forward to the reveal and what's next...
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    Who is planning on wheel spacers right out of the gate?

    So you already finished from being ashamed by your silly posts? Great news!
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    Who is planning on wheel spacers right out of the gate?

    Funny enough, the show car is not even close to what I would call deep. There would be no issue at all with driving it and close to zero percent chance to scrape anywhere. There is also a lot of travel left. There might be room for another 4 cm down, then we could call it deep. However I don't...
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    Let's talk about the Emira's seats...

    There are two seat options. The first edition comes with the „better“ one. Maybe this is the sports seat 🤷🏻‍♂️
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    Top Gear: Video Review

    They mention the exposed linkage as a FE goodie on their website, so this is probably how the base edition will look like.
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    Consolidated Emira Prototype Review Thread

    It‘s definitely not the OPF, because for this year it has none. They will integrate it for the 2023 production run, because they have to. While writing that however, I just realized that the white car is not a first edition spec car. Maybe it has the filter and the car from the Harry’s Garage...
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    Consolidated Emira Prototype Review Thread

    What I don't like at the moment is that throughout all the reviews they stated that the Emiras exhaust note is way quieter than the Evoras. I thought that this will happen, but still it's a big disappointment. It also doesn't sound remotely as good as the Evora as far as you can tell from...
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    Suspension: Touring and Sports options

    I was just wondering because @TomE wrote that sport suspension is closest to the "Evora GT 410", and not "Evora GT 410 Sport", but I don't know how big the difference between those two Evoras is. Edit: Ok, @TomE was faster than me now :D
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    Nimbus Grey Lotus Emira Photo Thread

    Posted one or two times already. It's not nimbus. Russell Carr also stated in this video that he hasn't seen a nimbus grey car yet.
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    What are you driving until the Emira arrives?

    Great write-up, luckily nothing happened to you or the car. The Evora looks great in that spec, it‘s looks really grew on me during the last few months. If I got it right, the Emira should be a bit softer than the GT 410 sport even if fitted with sport suspension. But most importantly it...
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    Suspension: Touring and Sports options

    Maybe I overread it, but as far as I understood, the closest match to the sport suspension is the Evora GT 410, right? Does that imply that the Evora GT 410 Sport and the 430 GT are even firmer than the Emira with sport suspension?
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    10 second video of a dark blue Emira in a showroom... Has anyone else seen this yet?

    As a photographer, have you also realized that in the original post the fire extinguisher to the left is perfectly red as it should be and when @digilotus color corrected the picture back on page one of this thread, the extinguisher turned orange?
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    Add lightness - reduce sales. Add weight - add sales & margin?

    I think you are right for the most part, but comparing it to the Evora 400, the Emira uses the same materials and technologies. It just got heavier due to the new features it got as well as the more luxurious approach as well as maybe stricter safety regulations. Nevertheless it is still cheaper...
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