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I'm not a lawyer by day but play one on the weekend ... can you show examples that are very similar/the same as what is going on with Lotus as all the ones I'm familar with aren't really applicable. Did Rivian revert back due to pending lawsuits - can you share that info especially from the...

agree that they shouldn't have an advertised actual base price and then not deliver any at that price. While they most likely (benefit of the doubt) never thought they would be this far behind, I can see where that could look like a B&S. They have said something like starting around ... Time...

It's going to be interesting to see how they manage it. Looking at how they've managed just the simple comms thus far doesn't give me confidence. While I'm not defending Lotus, the increases (some) are also not their fault as price of materials/shipping/etc have gone up significantly...

Love, love the interior. I wanted to get but afraid of trying to maintain :-) Can I ask a favor as I am looking for two measurements: clearance from ground to front lip and distance from front edge of car to center cap (which is supposed to be about 980mm)

Thanks for this but doesn't have the front lip measurement from ground up. I calculated using Tangent 7.9 to get approx 5.2" or 132mm. Can someone confirm in real life. And if you can confirm the measurement from the front lip to center cap is 984mm thanks

Am looking to get some measurements to determine if I need to get race ramps to load in trailer or not. If you can confirm these: Length 4,412mm; width 1,895mm (mirrors folded); height 1,225mm; wheelbase 2,575mm and then additionally meaure these: Dimension C, F D Thank you

what if we want to modify the Emira to be like one of the alternatives, can it stay here :-) sorry couldn't resist

ditto what he said. I seriously considered the 570 but the repair costs (way too MANY stories of issues) kept me from jumping into the Mc pool

Interesting comment .... as I am that person (and know many others). If you can only have one then I can see the point but if you are fortunate enough to be able to have multiple then they can serve different purposes. I have two other performance cars and when you look across them all, they...

Thanks for the updates. Question - what changed on the seats to now provide a great position vs before?

I truly enjoy my C8 and also have a Z06 deposit @ MM for MSRP. I'm in the low 200s for allocation so will be close if I get a '23 or not. I've moved ~70 slots so far but kinda hoping it will be next MY

more options always a good thing

Your order might not have been submitted due them receiving few allocations earlier. They know exactly how many they got each month and would have been able to tell you. Some of the better dealers were very transparent of the process and some .... well weren't.

Congrats and welcome to the dog pound. Given that FE v6 are now being delivered July-Oct, seems very optimistic to order and receive a base in '23. I hope it happens for you though

some most excellent pics. I have the black wheels with same body/caliper colors.

It just depends on how dealers want to manage their clients/orders. Gator initially required $2500 and then upped to $5k. For another limited car I ordered, the dealer did a verbal handshake and no deposit and then my C8, the dealer required $2k. I suspect that higher deposits help weed out...

Welcome. If you just spend countless hours reading through all the posts then it will keep you entertained for awhile :-))))) There are 700 FEs allocated to NA and those already done as orders had to be placed 1H2022. Due to be delivered .... soon, sometime in 2023 .... hopefully. It seems...

No one would fault Lotus for pulling back to sort issues but always better to control the narrative vs let it spin out of control ... which is what they have been doing for .... ever. Tell the bad news early to show transparency and over communication to build trust. Then you have the...

Cryptic. What does that even mean they weren't loaded. Because someone forgot, because the car loader was out sick, because they slotted others due to previous delays, because they shifted priorities, .... Given that they were at HQ a couple weeks ago, they would have known then as it would be...

While it's beyond the realm of even terrible communications, I'm ok with delay as long as it can arrive before end of summer so there are many months left of driving before winter hits. Maybe rates will drop (unlikely) and I can finance a portion :-) Too bad Lotus doesn't recognize and act on...

to be determined ..... soon

This just posted on FB from a showing at Lotus in Scottsdale AZ ..........." Was told by the Lotus reps that U.S. Cars should begin production in March, with first deliveries in June."

The Mc has been on my list for a couple years but after talking to so many people about the maintenance costs I bailed. I love the look but just too many gremlins and long term costs that are keeping me away. Maybe one day I might circle back but happy with the garage for now

Most excellent. I would love to have a Magma with the Shadow background though

I've been on the Z06 list for 2+ years but with the production delays, even though I have a low allocation #, it looks like I will get pushed into 2024. Which is actually better for me .... with the wife :-) The only reason I'll swapping out my C8 is for that engine note. If this Emira keeps...

In search of the elusive Emira in the wilds of UK ... coming 2022, 2023, soon

Mr Pechiney, as you have been good about providing information to the community, do you have any news to share from Lotus Cars USA trip to the UK. Everyone on pins and needles

Now my comments are based on the fact that HQ has not communicated with US about current status prior to someone actually flying over to chat (probably worried about phones being tapped). Not sure how Lotus does travel as we always travel on Sat/Sun to be at destination for Mon. Let's say they...

agreed, seems like a no brainer as I would definitely be raising my hand

congrats

I just want to say that I very much appreciate Tom and the other mods as I can only imagine how times they've said, are you kidding me, I'm done with this knucklehead ..... Most people don't like to be moderated but some people also can't handle being civil and adhering to the rules established...

Hopefully they would let you shift your deposit as they would be able to sell the car no problem. That would be a win win for you. But, we know some dealers will not allow that as easy $$. Agree more 'kinks' would be worked out but you will be paying a higher price for base and waiting...

So is your dealer allowing you to just walk away from your ordered car and return deposit? Assume so and they will just receive it and sell with ADM I reckon. I thought about going to a base but given the delays already, it will probably be 2yrs until it actually arrives ....and I didn't want...

Thanks for at least some information albeit not what we were expecting. Lotus puts a whole new level of definition to the word soon. End of next week will be 3 weeks of Jan but I guess if Lotus produces one car by end of month then I guess they met what they stated about US cars and Jan. No...

@Maurice R I would not default to getting screwed. Initially Lotus wanted 2500 but they were getting so many requests from US that they bumped it to 5k. So early birds got 2.5k but then after a certain date then it was increased to 5k. Again this is all refundable until the order was...

Exactly my experience. I went to our local dealer just to see a GT3RS/GT4RS (both $110k markup but listed final amount as market value price and then gave a discount of $10k. I asked about MSRP vs their MVP .... he kinda tap danced and then didn't talk to me after that so I just browsed :)...

nice ride with the 29s. I have a Trek Fuel EX8 that I don't use enough but this thread has me motivated to get back on the trails more and less on the road

nice goals. I wont ever get to those levels at my age now but we'll hold you accountable :-)