V8 Emira being considered to replace V6

Lotus could replace the Emira's supercharged V6 with a booming V8 | Autocar

V8 power is being considered as its supercharged V6 won't pass Euro 7 emissions tests

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[seriously]

no way. that's going to be a $500k car.

 

[macnlz]

no way. that's going to be a $500k car.

Even the new Toyota itself is "only" $200k (EDIT: ~225k, my bad)... A 650hp V8 Emira could go for $160-180 to compete with Porsche, perhaps?

 

[geoffbland]

Reviving this old thread with some complete speculation... Could it be they're looking at the new Toyota twin turbo V8 that was just introduced with the Toyota GR GT?
Going with a brand new engine that will be in production for many years to come makes sense to me... what do you all think?

Again it's a longitudinal engine. It would require a huge amount of engineering to fit transversely to any mid-engine car. So about as likely as the AMG V8.
The GT GR sounds nice though with the front engine but rear mounted transmission - seems to be more common these days.

 

[Hangar18]

Reviving this old thread with some complete speculation... Could it be they're looking at the new Toyota twin turbo V8 that was just introduced with the Toyota GR GT?

Going with a brand new engine that will be in production for many years to come makes sense to me... what do you all think?

I think the plans were abandoned (someone else can chime in). It's not going to be some 400k even if they did stick it in, which may or may not be possible since the Toyota engine is longitudinally mounted.


The issue is there are no engines that are in the correct layout.

My personal opinion... They can either afford the redesign, or the car will simply run til emissions are done with it.

 

[Lotustoronto]

Complete speculation - but I think the V6 and i4 will continue on past 2027. There will be a redesign (probably small) and I can only assume more options to be added. (carbon fibre?), but I suspect the re-design will be more to refit a hybrid powertrain of some sort. Think more along the lines of 911 GTS levels of performance. Maybe connected to the i4 or a different engine - can't see a V8 going into the Emira, or another manual Emira apart from the current V6.

I think whatever comes from Theory 1 concept will be the future Lotus sports car - Let's just hope when it arrives, it's built at Hethel still. It is still early enough and with EU regs moving away from EV - they could put an engine in it / hybrid power. Alas, no manual either - the Emira might not be the last combustion Lotus after all, but I do believe the V6 will be the last manual one.

 

[macnlz]

Complete speculation - but I think the V6 and i4 will continue on past 2027.

Given that this is the most low-cost option, I think you're probably right. They probably don't have the money to make big changes to the powertrain again.

Then again, if Toyota ends production of the V6, and if the i4 isn't selling well in the US, their hand may be forced...

 

[MickOpalak]

I don’t think redesigning the rear subframe for a longitudinal engine would be that difficult for Lotus. Recall they had to create a new rear sub frames for the Tesla roadster, the Opel/Vauxhall turbos and Hennessy did it for its V8. Heck, Lotus even did it for turbo I4. Different rear subframe from the V6.

 

[Emira Fan]

Saw something Yesterday, along the lines of Trump lowering/rolling back the US emissions standard or efficiency requirement. If that's the case suspect they will just leave the current engines in place. Perhaps up the turbo cars HP by 30 HP...

 

[NicolasB]

Not gonna happen

 

[geoffbland]

I don’t think redesigning the rear subframe for a longitudinal engine would be that difficult for Lotus. Recall they had to create a new rear sub frames for the Tesla roadster, the Opel/Vauxhall turbos and Hennessy did it for its V8. Heck, Lotus even did it for turbo I4. Different rear subframe from the V6.

Redesigning the subframe as you say is easy but that's not really the issue. Finding the space in the body shell both width-wise and length-wise is a bigger problem. The biggest problem is designing a new mid-engine transmission for these engines and ending up with a car priced so it would sell.