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    USA & Canada pricing

    To begin. I have only posted my opinions on here and what I have observed with my strong opinions on this car. It’s a forum and it should be for discussion. And I’ve brought up my very strong points against this car. So let me leave my final thoughts. I saw people freaking out about the price...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    I want the Emira to succeed. Don't get me wrong. The issue here is they are making the same move that caused the Evora's to sit on dealer lots for years while collecting dust. I fully expect the first editions to sell out just like the initial Evora's sold out. What I then see happening is...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    It's more about comparables. Certain cars get compared to each other (C63 vs M3 vs RS5). Generally each one offers something unique but are close in price. The GTS is what lotus said the Emira would be competing against ($95k CAD). Like it or not the vast majority of people who made deposits...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    I'm sorry, I sell lotus cars. The know NOTHING about the Canadian market. This is a lightly spec'd GTS which is the main competitor for the V6 with premium package at 105k Canadian, some pain and a manual at 105K Canadian. Attached with a PDK GT4 at 122k Canadian. This idea that lotus knows...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    Lol 7 years to sell. When you price a car at a certain level, the car has to sell itself, it is no longer in the hands of the salesmen. Nobody walks into a Ferrari dealership and buys a Ferrari because the salesman convinced them it’s better than a Corolla. These people come with cash in...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    Just wait till V6 FE holders just know how badly they will get bent over after making a non-refundable deposit. Oh please, I give my honest opinions to my customers, fortunately I don't work where I am expected to be a puppet. The Emira is not the only car we sell. In the luxury car business...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    With VAT removed, the GBP price of the Emira V6 FE is 61500 pounds. This converts to 105k Canadian roughly. Like I said earlier, this is a 105-110k car with auto being 110k. Even looking at how it has been priced between the GTS and GT4 globally (95k CAD to 116k CAD). This was in our initially...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    Zero information on i4 First Edition. We expect $130-140k OOTD. For the V6, with luxury tax, adding black pack, destination fees, regular tax. You will be spending $140-150k for this thing. I told my customers the pricing yesterday. 80% of them have backed out, the rest are waiting on the...
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    Sorry can’t continue purchase

    I work at a lotus dealership and here is what I have: 1. This is a new factory, you will have bugs, you will not get parts back in time 2. This car will weight more than the Cayman GTS and GT4 3. First Edition buyers are obviously test pilots, they removed the adaptive cruise and lumped...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    This is what lotus priced themselves against in Canada. A GT car with PDK that is a non-depreciating asset and an established track weapon and the more tame GTS starts 30k below. The number of emails I've gotten from people saying "I'm getting a Gt4 or a corvette" is comical.
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    USA & Canada pricing

    I think these days you can't hide from the value propositions of cars. Lotus is producing a new sports cars with super car looks. But with regards to value, this thing is slower than an Audi R8 made in 2008....14 years later. Its's using a Toyota engine from 2005 (16 years ago), with parts from...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    It's very unfortunate for them but their choice. A redesigned cayman is planned for 2023, C8 Z06, Nissan Z, C63 amg, G87 M2. People paying 140-150k OOTD will be shocked to hear a trade in value of 90k or less in 2024, just two years after. Supply chains will be better and you'll start hearing...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    Lotus is very small in Canada. The number of people who will be buying the Emira are mostly previous Evora owners who will see this as an update for slightly less. They’ll milk out the existing lotus base but I’m getting so many emails for refunds from new buyers who I’ve told the pricing. They...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    This is the pricing. It’s not speculation. You’ll get the email soon. This delay crap is annoying but it’s legit
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    USA & Canada pricing

    At around $150k ootd after options like black pack. You can look at a used mclaren 570s. This is such a bad deal for Canadians I can’t recommend anyone buy this. You’re taking a risk on an unknown car with unknown quality from a brand with limited support.
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    USA & Canada pricing

    LMAO $96000+ for V4 base $120k+ for V6 manual $123k+ for V6 Auto All pre-tax. As a man selling these cars, don’t buy this. Please
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    USA & Canada pricing

    The issue I have is that as someone who works where these cars will be sold, it makes us look dumb to our customers. We told them end of August/September, we told them first week of October, then we tell them definitively October 18th and they send out the wrong currency. Then we're getting...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    My advice to every Canadian buyer: if the FE is over $110,000 do not but this car. There will be a lot of upgrades, especially the 4 cylinder. The car's performance is very poor for the price. A PDK 4.0 GTS does 0-100 in 3.4s and will be under $100k, add options and it can be spec'd at $110k, it...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    I work at the dealership and this is where I was getting information. The original pricing from lotus reps was 105-110k (for FE v6) till they got deposit numbers. The car is in between a GTS and GT4 for the most part. In Canada, waitlists for a 4.0 GTS are about 1+ years, just call and try...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    The pricing should've been released today. The Canadian model SHOULD be 105-110k. If they charge more then they decided they can make more off the Canadian deposits. There will be so many upgrades to this first model. Any Canadian paying more will take a bath in depreciation come resale...
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    USA & Canada pricing

    Canadian Pricing comes out Monday. Should be between 105-110k.
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