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Yes of course, new they were a £250k+ car so in pure cash terms they are only comparable as long as you don't mind a 10 year old car vs a new one, My insurance was less with the Mac, road tax is more and service costs so far about the same. As a weekend toy they are also both comparable, similar...

In the UK a 650s is very similar in cost to a new Emira. My Emira was going to be around £84k and my 650s was only £3k more than that. Always the risk of a big bill with a supercar but so far so good. I was parked next to an Emira at a car show last weekend and the Emira still looks epic.

It's what he does really, tries to give a general feel of how he feels, he loves a clickbait title as well. Without more internal knowledge, hard to give a detailed objective discussion and probably not as entertaining. These Youtubers are about entertaining for the clicks ultimately.

I seriously doubt it. Many of us who were early orderers and lived the excruciating pain of the total lack of regular information, lies and delays far in excess of what was acceptable even with Covid; fed back in considerable detail verbally, in writing and finally though cancelling. Since the...

Just popped in to see the reaction to Harry's vid. Nice to see Harry following my example ;-) although I never quite got to the ownership stage as I cancelled my i4 early this year. I purchased from Thorney with their warranty and the car has been epic. Done about 1400 miles since April and...

Yes, I have found out this is a bit of a faux pas with supercars. Never post pics with the lift engaged. My drive has a steep curb so logic told me to leave it up so I don't forget and scrape carbon splitter etc. Must remember to only post pics in the lowered position.

My Emira alternative was picked up today. Very happy with it but still a little regretful on the Emira. Also by strange coincidence the 4 week wait to get my deposits refunded by Lotus finally resolved today, just as I was making the final payment for the 650s. I will for sure keep popping in...

As requested, my Emira alternative was picked up today. Very happy with it but still a little regretful on the Emira. Also by strange coincidence the 4 week wait to get my deposits refunded by Lotus finally resolved today, just as I was making the final payment for the 650s. I will for sure...

I appreciate the troubles with Admiral recognising the i4 but I had a chat with them about my 650s today and saved £200 going multicar even when my wifes car is not due for another 6 months. Could be worth trying as Admiral were the cheapest on the Emira for me as well.

I don't have the space or money for two sports/super cars sadly. I do have a little regret as I was i4 all along and for the reasons you are all talking about. My plan was the Emira for a couple of years then into McLaren. I could just reverse it, and get the Emira after a couple of years. Maybe...

As the OP, I am so delighted to see closure on this with the first owners taking delivery of their i4/Emira Turbo today. Many congrats and enjoy your cars, I shall be living vicariously through you all. The irony is that mine was delivered a week ago to the dealer and I could be picking up this...

Possible and he certainly tried.

Just had a call from Lotus Hatfield which I did not know even existed to say my car was ready to collect. Had to let them down gently as he had no idea I had cancelled.

I am going through limited or no no claims with admiral currently. As I have been a company car driver for over 25 years Admiral do not recognise my company car driving clean history. That said when I spoke to them they applied a new insurer discount and gave me the equivalent of 5 years no...

I had a chat with Lotus CC yesterday and mine was ready for collection now if I had not cancelled it. Ordered 8th July 2021 so fairly early. Probably one of those on Autotrader now.

Here in Watford as well

Hi All I bought a personal plate GC10 TUS but as I will be in a McLaren rather than a Lotus in the near future, it makes little sense. I will sell for the price I paid from the DVLA £599, not looking to make a profit just move it on. PM if you are interested. Equally not interested in low ball...

I would suggest that the i4 has only just appeared on the insurers list. When I last looked it up a couple of months ago I had to use the v6 Emira as the i4 was not yet a selection choice. It might improve rapidly as they start getting delivered. I would also call the insurers direct and try to...

I used Compare the Market and best quotes were with Admiral. I think lowest was around £600 parked on drive, 57, 15 yr NCB South Herts

Beautiful. I went for the 650s partially because of the active ride. Yes more to go wrong and the accumulators are a consumable to some degree but the ride in normal mode is sublime, leave it in auto and it gives a lovely GT feel if you need to get some miles in. Then sport or track to sharpen...

I have done a lot of research. The rods are fine on stock power, I am not into modding. I will be getting a warranty and buying through a McLaren specialist, they are independent only and hour from me and have a great reputation looking after the cars. I am buying used and the cost is only £3k...

Yeah I could not run to a new 650s (well they stopped making them a while back) and with all the carbon options on the one I am buying list would have been nearly £300k. Mine dates from 2015 and cost about £3k more than my Emira would have.

It’s this car, deposit paid and insurance in process. Has some prep work to be done so a couple of weeks away from pickup

I finally bailed on the Emira, never thought I would do this. Not ruling out looking again in a couple of years at a used one or maybe a higher performance version but for me the future is a Mantis Green 650s. Good luck to you all and I will look in occasionally.

Sorry chaps, finally bailed on the i4. Not ruling out looking again in a couple of years at a used one or maybe a higher performance version but for me the future is a Mantis Green 650s. Good luck to you all and I will look in occasionally.

Man maths is a great thing, can justify most stuff that way

Yeah, it is scary but getting a Thorney warranty helps and regular service costs are comparable to the Lotus quoted costs. Actually cheaper to insure for me at £530 that the Lotus at £670.

Super torn. I am a hairsbreadth from pulling the trigger on a 650s and cancelling the i4. Decision on a knife edge.

p Left hand drive?

Well that’s very strange.

Nope, he did it in his earliest years in Karting and in atmo cars long before he got into a turbo. It is his technique and it probably had benefits in turbos but that is not why he developed it.

That was a Senna thing, several references to it out there, very odd and hard to see how it worked but he certainly made it work for him. Interesting analysis here

I guarantee the wait will end this year. Just uncertain as to the exact car I will end up with.

It is probably not just paperwork for such a delay. Likewise I don't think it is an emissions failure as such, more likely they submitted based on one set of numbers and it did not hit those numbers and they have top either resubmit or make a change to the car. All spedculation on my behalf of...

It absolutely is about the AMG i4 engine. I suspect it is something to do with legal permissions similar to the US CARB situation. Maybe it failed an emissions test or fell short of a target. Nothing has been publically admitted by Lotus or to any of us who recieved (eventually) phone calls...

That is the 6 million dollar question isnt it. The truth is I don't know really and not sure how much I care any more, this process has taken its toll and I am reluctant to get my hopes up. My wife just looks at me and says "it's never going to happen" and she has been saying this for a while. I...

My reservatiion was 8th July, supposedly in the first 50 orders but how many of those are still hanging on is uncertain.

No way, too much disapointment endured already. I have an appointment at Thorney Motorsport in Jan to test drive some McLarens, very very close to bailing.

Following your post I also emailed Lotus CC yesterday and got a phone call this morning with the script. I took the opportunity to release my feelings on the matter of Lotus customer care and the whole sordid journey (politely of course) and feel a little better for that. CC did claim they had...