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the trouble with overanalysing everything is that ..... it goes against the flow.... kills spontaneity and I am generally quite spontaneous. I want to want this car.... I want to say, to hell with the incoming depreciation that will probably cost me 10k over a year..... I want to say its not a...

uffff.... if he does, that would be the end... If I were Lotus, I probably would have asked/insisted... no you tuber, with granted rights to film in the factory etc, do NOT sell their cars for 18 months. I do doubt this was thought about, but thats par for the course.... His sunday video will...

SOOO Today at 5pm is part 4 of the "EMIRA" trip where Harry will NOT talk about the emira, but instead about the gorgeous Ferrari Pure Blood (free translation). HOWEVER, on Sunday at 5PM he will give his opinions on 2500 miles in the actual L O T U S EMIRA.....so surely one to watch out for. I...

I, as with all subjects on here, am NO expert, and dont pretend to be at all. There are some experts on here and some who seem to know a great deal about everything, Stephen Fry makes me feel humble, but I didnt expect the same on here.. haha However, I do try to use my common sense and my...

I got my checkout email around the same time as you and this week got my dates. I was never told, but I would imagine my car too was in PDI and maybe a few things were picked up and if that were the case, lets say a door trim was not correctly attached, as has been the case on several cars...

If you click it they may give a discount off the car price at this rate........

and how on earth would they know..... no one is going to go round spreading the info.... Im one of the possibilities, but still not certain what I will do with my blue baby

maybe but does not mean flippers were doing the dirty..... teslas are still selling for overs.... defenders..many cars, but we will have to agree to disagree.. I doubt more than 3% of lotus emira orders came from people who never had any intention of using the car

maybe, but I generally disagree, simply as Lotus's have NEVER really fetched over sticker price... they have never ever been that sort after, apart from the first Elise's and esprits perhaps.. but even then, I doubt if they went for over sticker. An expert flipper could have speculated with 5 k...

so what your saying is that you are right, and now there is no way to prove it... you sound like my wife.....

good luck with that....... it LCC are not difficult enough to deal with, try getting that info :). It will be a separate department that registers the cars and I doubt very much if they will be assisting you, but worth asking...

as mentioned in my post, the car is registered at time of delivery, not PDI, that would be a mistake as PDI could find errors which take weeks or months to fix. My car will be delivered to dealer around 2/3rd of January and registration form sent of around then, before or even at hand over. No...

Ive certainly seem some customers pointing out horrendous panel gaps and some of the reported issues beggar belief so yes, I think you may be right. I hate to say it, but Ive already said it else where, we still cannot compare UK manufacturing with that of Germany, Japan etc... its a big shame...

yes as Ive said a few times, we keep hearing of the huge amount of "flippers" supposedly who ordered Emira's, but with 100 odd cars delivered worldwide to customers... i gues.... .where are all the flippers???? Most cars for sale are dealers in EU or are not actually in customers hands in the...

well originally it was a kit car ;) Lotus 7 was sold as a "kit" so not surprising..... not a real kit and just a tax avoidance trick, but technically the dealer or customer still had to put bits on their car before using it...hence kit car.

I'll have you know, rightly or wrongly, I felt very safe in my Nomad...... its a pretty rugged piece of xxxx, much more so than a caterham and I'd even say it side impact protection would beat most cars as you are sat inside a virtual cage with pretty thick diameter tubing. We will just...

it will arrive to BnC 1 or 2 days before the handover dates they have proposed you and you must pay 3 days before that date... this is at least what I have been told. HOWEVER, you cannot pay until you get the invoice.... and that could arrive late as has been the case with others... almost...

WELL, finally.... @Scruff111S you beat me to it... but at deceased @Leonard I beat you to it (I think) I just got my call and was offered 2 dates, one before xmas, which was a nice effort, and one in January, which actually makes more sense. 22nd dec and 5th january... where dealer would receive...

I in turn agree with all you say and I am very worried for Lotus, more than for myself, about these mid term values. We can argue here between all of us what makes a quality car, a good sports car, a good image car, etc etc, BUT if a certain car's residuals are not good, the general impression...

I accept your point, but at the same time, you yourself have highlighted the initial problems as having an effect on your thoughts as to whether to complete your purchase or not, so clearly I am not alone in my opinions and doubts about quality. And just like with Englands exit from the world...

maybe, yes, but not getting at you, instead talking about the EMIRA specifically, as others have said, there are about 50 cars out there in the UK now..and for actual sale, physically, how many cars? We cant include cars that are not in customers hands as by the time they arrive, it wont be 50...

All I can say is that I was told I would be in the 1st 60 and that was for November build December hand over... there should be about 100 by the end of the year then about 300 by the end of January if I remember correctly what I was told. I put it on another buried post somewhere ages ago. I...

I can appreciate the paganinsinmiso pero the truth is I dont find any of their cars ever made to be interesting design wise.... simply not my cup of chai ... in fact quite ugly if I am honest about how I feel and its good to be honest and let it out some times, so I will go further they are xxit...

In the UK less than 50 delivered so far Id say

well, its partly down to people caving... trying to make a quick buck... would be better to wait it out for at least a month... 15k over and wait.... or take an offer, but dont announce lower..... I hope lotus do put their prices up...or else..... the above mentioned will happen and the cars...

so we have had 25k above list... 20k...15...10..and 5.... And the only one we know for sure that has been sold, netted the owner about 5k over list.. Things are not looking great so far for the Emira.. oh well, Harry's 2nd video I imagine in 39 mins will make ALLLLLL the difference.. And NOOOO...

Or maybe they do it as a special thank you to the customers that spend 500k every year or two with them... knowing that these guys get their names on a VIP list, whether they decide to act upon it or not, does not matter so much, its still nice to know you are a VIP....... its all about the...

if they knew who I was, they may change that to a cross bow.... haha

although a big issue could be supply of parts, which the BMW wouldn't have an issue with.... but yes overall much cheaper to run a lotus than any of the super cars, of which it is not one

but possibly higher depreciation as well as the 3k a year already on top... as with the aston vantage, which I would consider, its an unfair comparison, very different cars and price points. I would take a vantage or a maclaren over an emira if I thought financially I could get 3 years at the...

yes, in spain 3 increases within a year.. caterham increased by between 6 and 15%..... the market is increasing its prices, but of course what they will have to do is help with fiances and finance...or else they will have to reduce production... which would not be sensible given previous 2 3...

nothing like hanging your dirty or clean laundry out in public.. haha. well done...looks lovely....

Its not that hard to walk away and underneath I know I will not enjoy this car as much as most people may. Im not saying its not a good car, it is a good car, and certainly for the supposed base price it would have been. However it, and probably no car this side of 150k will be an amazing car...

haha... I dont think its a long term loaner no. I dont think he is dishonest and would not misrepresent himself like that..he doesnt need the money and doesnt need to and would not put himself at risk for Lotus. I guess, like a broken relationship.. you kind of always feel...until the last...

Yes, you are absolutely right and its not your fault and you are not doing anything wrong at all....... hopefully the 3 cars on autotrader, of which one at least does not actually exist yet in the sellers hands.... will sell quite quickly and things will move on and you can get a bit more...

Am I old or are you old? haha or we are both "finished" I am quite excited about the caterham ..and that is 6 months away... the emira is "days" away and I am almost neutral. So not sure its an age thing, or simply having driven the car I know its not wowing my senses... noise is less...

Moderator note: moved out of individual advert into thread about Emira sales So, not to pick at anyone trying to sell their car, especially as I will maybe be in the same position and I am not saying any of us are flippers, as that certainly wasn't my initial intention and even if we...

you are posh then.. my mom had a big upgrade to get there from down trodden erdington...and technically she is in walmley, we wont argue the difference, but there is one.. haha Yes in theory from rybrook.... if I collect.... its still up in the air, between this Uk car, the Spanish car and...

``` Well..... I would not like to guarantee anything of course, BUT...with you having a very exclusive car, one that stands out...more than any other at the moment. I think there is little risk of it being stolen.... where are they going to take it... it would be tracked as I am sure you have...

could it also be a reason we dont get our cars? haha... it does tend to continue to paint the big picture we have seen for over a year... :(