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    I'm out - the cancellations thread

    This is just symptomatic. The lotus we all knew and loved in my case for over 40 years and many cars is gone . You can blame the owners or the management but I cancelled my order some months ago. The car is pretty and the tech updated but Evoras are a better drive, customer services are the...
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    UK refunds following cancellation

    Cancelled on 3rd March. They repaid £2k of my deposit within 10 days but still have £3k. I have chased by email several times with no response and been hanging on forabout 20 minutes. Obviously their callback facility is overwhelmed or doesnt work.
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    Emiras advertised for sale on other sites

    32 Emiras for sale on auto trader this morning !!
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    Prices increase update from Lotus - and stopping of reservations for V6 FE

    Actually the lines for the Emira were originally drawn by a more junior member of the design team... I suspect a lot of what is happening is out of Matt Windle's hands. Business management in China is on a different axis to the western europe and whilst we may find the approach strange at times...
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    Emira Issues - from final production cars

    all discs rust if they get wet and are not used. If you are using it , shouldn't be a problem. Just don't leave it outside for months unused. I suspect this was caused by some cars being almost complete months ago, stored outside but waiting for parts.
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    Car shows "limp mode" or "reduced acceleration" warnings (possible ECU issue)

    We name ourselves lol. I’m not grumpy in the slightest just a long term Lotus owner of multiple cars plus other makes who was a pre reveal depositor, who waited for nearly two years for his car with more than many delays and poor comms. I have driven Emira 4 times and know three non Forum...
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    Car shows "limp mode" or "reduced acceleration" warnings (possible ECU issue)

    No, but we are not in the 60’s now and this forum plus those I know who have their cars plus the demos and would love to hear from someone with zero issues!!
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    First Emira Breakdown?

    To be clear, under your consumer rights, your contract is with Lotus Cars not the dealer. Lotus cars have the liability to correct this. I hope they get you a replacement car as soon as they can schedule one. They should provide a courtesy straight away.
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    First Emira Breakdown?

    The power train should be reliable but ancillaries and the ECU’s are unproven. Hopefully it’s just a pipe. It is a small volume hand built car with a new production line and a lot of new staff. I have been in three emiras now and all have return to dealer issues but fairly minor ones. Hopefully...
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    Further Delays

    I’m a pre reveal and had many lotus cars, cancelled last week. Can’t see myself attempting to buy from Lotus again. Sad but head finally overruled heart.
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    Emira v 911 (992T)

    Noise is relative and 992’s have road noise but to my ears the Emira is definitely louder .
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    Emira v 911 (992T)

    I’ve just cancelled my Emira and should have my T confirmation in a couple of weeks. The T will be non hybrid, but 992.2 will be hybrid and I don’t want Hybrid and all the extra weight. It’s not clear if all 992.2’s will be but the platform has been engineered to take a battery behind the rear...
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    Hi, have you had any issues with your car or are you a happy owner? I was ringing to cancel...

    Hi, have you had any issues with your car or are you a happy owner? I was ringing to cancel today only to be told my car is in production now - I haven't had any check out emails. I am still being scared off by Toms experience and and the early issues so just wanted to hear from someone who is...
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    I'm out - the cancellations thread

    That's my point it hasn't been test driven for years. The show car at Goodwood was powered by an electric motor and the running grey car was a handbuilt prototype. They didnt start having access to the VP cars until end of 2021 only 6 months before they said they were going to be delivering...
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    Further Delays

    My protect and enhance was October, still no checkout or update so I will be withdrawing.
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    I'm out - the cancellations thread

    Wow, well done on getting hold of a 992 gt3, my local dealer had a new GT3 touring in 50 miles and only a cool £250k. lovely though.
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    I'm out - the cancellations thread

    I hope this isnt true, but I simply cannot fathom why they rushed this car through in a crazy timescale whilst trying to expand globally, build new production facilities and launch EV’s. The Goodwood cars were mockups/ a handbuilt ‘Evora’, global supply chains were massively stretched at the...
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    Further Delays

    Just because its gone through quality control doesn't mean its right☹️
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    I'm out - the cancellations thread

    Turned up for my formal test drive today. Mechanic had to be called with his laptop to reboot the car. Was sort of the final straw for me. I love the look of the car and the steering in particular, but this reboot is a regular thing for them, the touch controls on the left of the steering didnt...
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    Emira Issues - from final production cars

    Went for my additional Test drive today only to arrive and find the car wouldn't start. Had to get in the engineer with his laptop to reset the car and then he managed to start it but advised not to turn it off when driving. Apparently having to do this a lot. I love the look of the car and the...
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    Further Delays

    Spoke to CS yesterday having had the pre xmas call telling me the 'good news' that my car was being built in January (was December before the call) with a March delivery ( perhaps PDI is delaying things). Phoned CS yesterday who said there unfortunately further delays that would be communicated...
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    Help me decide

    Nimbus
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    Help me decide

    Magma in overcast dark conditions looks pretty dark, but in sunny conditions really pops and looks amazing. I changed to Magma having seen it in the flesh. Only colour I would take in preference would be a pearlescent white!
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    Shift Knob Replacement

    Spot on 😆
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    Further Delays

    Enhance & protect 21st October - delay email sent in November, Delay call just before xmas, nothing since no checkout email.
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    Shift Knob Replacement

    It's the same as my Elise. It's either drill or laser cut and they don't then apply any extra finishing so feels sharp initially but after a couple of thousand miles it loses its edges so is fine. That said all metal gear knobs are not great from a temp point of view.
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    Matt Windle interview with Car and Driver

    There is no manual gearbox made for the i4 engine and designing one for this run out period would make no sense. I dont think any of the numbers MW quotes make any sense whatsoever and suddenly its not parts supply thats held production up but a bottleneck in chassis fabrication! I dont...
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    Matt Windle interview with Car and Driver

    Sadly I think they are in La La Land. They are already making very basic production errors and if they ramp it up to 7k pa that production line just won't cope unless it is run in a very un Lotus way - there is just too much manual work and therein lies the problem. Looks aside It's a good car...
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    Emira v 911 (992T)

    The whine builds but there during normal driving. 997’s were very noisy, but 992 is much quieter.
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    Emira v 911 (992T)

    992 and Emira very different cars now. 992 is a masterpiece of complex engineering, rides very well, engine muted without sports exhaust but then sounds good when stretched. Interior design and quality is very good. Certainly in most forms it is brutally quick when required and feels much...
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    Further delays?

    I was April 21 deposit and told last week that its moved from Dec production, Jan delivery to Jan production, Feb delivery. As long as its no later than March I dont mind now. All low volume producers are having supply issues, its just that comms from Lotus have been very poorly handled. I have...
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    Harry's Garage videos - visit to Hethel and Matt Windle interview, Emira collection and drive

    Harry seemed pretty happy with 400hp and. There are a group who always want to mod their cars no matter what, even if in some cases it makes them a worse car by others standards. Ie make the car much noisier - great fun for a while, PITA as you slog up a motorway for 3 hours. The transmission is...
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    Harry's Garage videos - visit to Hethel and Matt Windle interview, Emira collection and drive

    Well I drove a 911 c4s in the very cold temps last week and it didnt give me the confidence I thought it should. The EMira feels super planted in comparison. The Video was definately an 8 /10 and for an all round daily possibly higher. The wind noise on the autobahn is hardly a problem!!
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    UK deposit to order checkout to delivery process

    It felt grabby to me in comparison to the C2 Cab I drove recently. The Emira does give more feel and confidence than either though.
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    Further delays?

    Just had similar via a call from LCC. Was December, now January production Feb delivery, so they must be a fair way off their December Schedule. Not that bothered this time of year, March would be fine.
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    UK deposit to order checkout to delivery process

    C4S -2 t0 2.5 degrees so took a lot of care! Roads slippery. Great car, but I still am not a PDK fan. the 4 tugs the steering at times and the car can skip even at normal speeds. My last 911 was a 997 and its amazing how they have grown. I understand why people like them. I have a deposit on a...
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    UK deposit to order checkout to delivery process

    Still no check out email for my December build. Local Porsche dealer lending me a 992 tomorrow. Note no 30 minute accompanied tracked test drive. I have the car for the day to go where I want.
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    Experience of actual owners using their cars

    Lots of test drives now done and only extended review is Harrys Garage. Can we have a thread where those who have received their own cars talk about the actual ownership experience.
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    The great big "all the customer test drives" thread

    The power delivery is very linear. You do gather speed quickly but it doesnt have the turbo shove of a 911 or indeed an A110 but also doesnt have the high end rush of say a GTS or GT4. Its where the 911 engine is quite impressive as it feels normally aspirated at the top with a big turbo wallop...
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